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Does Bioware support griefing on PvP servers?

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Does Bioware support griefing on PvP servers?

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Mapache
01.08.2012 , 09:20 AM | #1
Me and my guild joined a PvP server to PvP, yes, that's established. But we did so in good faith since Bioware assured us that they would implement measures to prevent griefing even on PvP servers... so where are these preventions? PvP server rulesets actually promote griefing on PvP servers.

Level 50's can go to Nar Shaddaa, Hoth, Alderaan, and Tatooine to just name a few and go INSIDE quest hubs, wait for questers to get off taxis, then slaughter them, they respawn there at the base, they kill them again, corpse camp, and repeat until they get some kind of help, map, or log out. Really Bioware? Just about every day I log on there are 50's inside Aurek base on Hoth waiting for people (usually lvl 40's) to come out of the spaceport, then they gank them. Seriously? There is no chance for a couple 40's to fight a group of 50's in this game, especially with the accuracy differential. PvP servers should not promote griefing. Enemy factions should NOT be able to go INSIDE enemy quest hubs/taxi locations. I'm really still scratching my head on this one.

Where are the level 50 one-shot turrets around factioned quest hubs to prevent this like in other MMO's? Why can't low-levels actually HIT level 50's in pvp? Why is there such a huge accuracy differential in PvP, I can understand it being there for PvE, but PvP too? Lower level players 10+ have absolutely no chance to defend themselves against players 10 or more levels higher, even in large groups, one 50 with high defense can take out a party of 30's. And what's worse, they can't even escape on their speeders due to 50's having a 20% faster speeder. Do I like PvP? Yes, but I don't like griefing and ya'll said there would be things in the game to prevent griefing... what things?

Here are my ideas for fixing PvP on PvP servers, and I think there'd be a lot more happy players if you implemented these ideas.
  • Remove the accuracy debuff on lower-level players so they can actually defend themselves against 50's. Accuracy should be based on stats, not level. They will probably die anyways, but at least 10 level 20's will actually stand a chance against 1 50.
  • Add level 50 Champion one-shot turrets and stealth detection fields to all Taxi Locations to prevent taxi/spawn camping
  • Give players the ability to buy some kind of "Treaty Badge" on PvP servers that prevents players from attacking or being attacked in open world PvP for 24 hrs but it does not work in Warzones or Ilum. Alternatively, this badge could be a permanent open-world protection from attack from enemy players 8 or more levels higher.
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Darth_Rathus
01.08.2012 , 09:21 AM | #2
pvp forum --->

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DannyInternets
01.08.2012 , 09:21 AM | #3
If you don't like PvP then don't select PvP servers. You dug your own grave, now lie in it.

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PjPablo
01.08.2012 , 09:23 AM | #4
The thing is here is there is a player controlled solution to this. Gather up faction forces and fight back. Kick them out. On PVP servers this is going to happen and to me part of the fun of playing on a PVP server. Guys want to act like jerks? Well round up the posse and give it right back to them!

P.S. I would be prepared for the "PVP happened on a PVP server" type responses here.

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Mapache
01.08.2012 , 09:26 AM | #5
Quote: Originally Posted by DannyInternets View Post
If you don't like PvP then don't select PvP servers. You dug your own grave, now lie in it.
Level 50's camping noob quest hubs is NOT PvP.
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Raurth
01.08.2012 , 09:28 AM | #6
Quote: Originally Posted by Mapache View Post
Level 50's camping noob quest hubs is NOT PvP.
Really can't blame them. If I saw your guild on my server I would slaughter you myself.

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Mapache
01.08.2012 , 09:28 AM | #7
Quote: Originally Posted by PjPablo View Post
The thing is here is there is a player controlled solution to this. Gather up faction forces and fight back. Kick them out. On PVP servers this is going to happen and to me part of the fun of playing on a PVP server. Guys want to act like jerks? Well round up the posse and give it right back to them!

P.S. I would be prepared for the "PVP happened on a PVP server" type responses here.
I agree, that is fun, but it's not fun when you are camped at your Republic respawn site on your low level quest planet, Republic NPC's all standing around doing nothing, and 4-8 lvl 50 Sith standing over your corpse.

Sith shouldn't be able to go inside Republic quest hubs. Bioware said there'd be safe zones for questers on PvP planets, where are they?
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Proto
01.08.2012 , 09:30 AM | #8
Mepache, you're a Crusader, aren't you? Since when were they so spineless? Aren't the Christian warriors of God the chosen few who fight back depite all odds and, in the end, win? You need to persevere my brother, and stop the complaining for the forces of evil will not relent simply because you write a prayer to the almighty (Bioware) to change their source code.

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psychosiszz
01.08.2012 , 09:32 AM | #9
I think your on the wrong server. Could i recommend a PVE server.
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vincentres
01.08.2012 , 09:37 AM | #10
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This environment allows players to attack other players in many areas in the game. If you are looking for a taste of direct intergalactic conflict against other players, this may be the server type for you. However, please bear in mind that actions and situations that can be resolved though PvP are not considered harassment and will not be enforeced as such.

They do support it. You dug your own grave, now lie in it.