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DEFEAT The First Son


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Wotscheints
01.22.2012 , 05:46 PM | #21
Just took him out as a fresh lvl50 healer with almost no lvl50 gear after 3 unsuccessful tries.

I tried 3 times with Qyzen. It turns out I invested quite a lot of force into healing him and eventually ran out of force (oof is the new oom!) because I had invested force into damage AND healing. I am not saying it's not working with Qyzen but if you try with Qyzen make sure you put Qyzen in focus and heal him with the focus target modifier key ("end" by default, can be reconfigured in your keybindings to something closer to WASD). That way you keep the boss in target at all times. Use weaken mind and mind crush as well as disturbance and project. Don't use telekinetic throw. It's channelling and not worth the dmg you deal compared to the mobility you lose. Be warned: it will be a long fight.

I was about to give up. Then revived and dismissed Qyzen for Nadia. It's important to point out I never really cared about her gear. She got what I don't need anymore.
I've read in this thread that damage dealers did the boss with Tharan, so why not use a damage dealing companion and tank the boss myself?

It turned out that this was by far the better choice. Nadia deals a lot more damage than Qyzen and as a good healer, I can heal myself. Nadia took some damage, but shield (force armor) and hot (rejuvenate) were enough most of the time.
Two or three times into the fight she did get a lot of damage: Force Armor > Healing Trance (+Noble Sacrifice) > Rejuvenate > Deliverance healed her up. Close to the end of the fight I decided to let her die and deal damage instead. I came out of the fight at 100% hp and a good amount of force with the boss being pretty far away. Yes, he's a caster, but does his knockback, too. So stay away from him.

The main advantage of using Nadia was that I kept the boss in target at almost all times and created a good distance between me and Nadia. When she got aggro, I increased my damage to make the boss attack me again, when the boss was close to reach me, I healed myself or Nadia and ran away from the boss. A couple of times this aggro-ping-pong worked quite well, which reduces overall damage taken.

I found it to not really be necessary to interrupt all casts of him - of course you can, but make sure you got one interrupt ready when he casts his rocks.

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Zaphir
01.23.2012 , 12:55 PM | #22
Just did this as a level 48 seer-spec sage using Nadia as a companion. I think it may be worthwhile to respec healing for this fight if you're having problems as a sage... he does a lot of damage, but it's mostly steady and healable. I also didn't see too much physical damage, it was all disturbance spam with project storm, the stun thing and the cavequake mixed in occasionally.

Some notes:
- I didn't interrupt disturbance. With a 2 level disadvantage (and thus resists), I couldn't afford a cavequake going off while my interrupt (and probably stun) was on cooldown. Project Storm is worth interrupting, though.
- Trading aggro with Nadia is vital. I used Cloud Mind when I got very low, and Rescue on Nadia when she got very low. Nadia does a lot of damage, so she MUST live... otoh the boss hurt me pretty bad with those chaincast disturbances a few times, so I had her take a few hits while I healed back up.
- I started interrupting cavequake at the middle of the cast (used the first half of the cast bar to heal) so I could follow up with the knockback and/or the stun in case my interrupt got resisted.
- I did try to keep weaken mind going, and mind crush / tk throw if both me and Nadia were at high hp.
- Didn't move at all, just stood in place and spammed heals. Rejuvenate -> Healing Trance -> Shield -> Deliverance was my priority list, and it kept me up fine for the most part.
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KJOhio
01.24.2012 , 07:40 AM | #23
It has been long (see my other post), but I was able to beat him on the second try @level 50. I am Seer specced. I used Theran. Died the first time. Respawned and ran to the back of the cave. Kept my back towards the wall and started fighting him. Kept up the dots and all the attacks. I interrupted only the Cave-in cast. The other attacks were not doing too much damage to me. I was keeping force armor and rejuvenate on me at all times. Theran was healing me most of the time and also doing a bit of dps. I think I used 2-3 direct heals on me. I took him down in approximately 5-6 minutes of fight (don't exactly remember, but was not too long). After defeating him, I killed the two adds at the front of the cave.

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Kinakin
04.14.2012 , 10:09 AM | #24
My problem is that just before he starts casting that cave in spell he casts somekind of AOE levitation spell that is instant and basically leaves me in mid air like force lift, but I cant break it and then he starts channeling cave in which I cant interupt.

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Kinakin
04.14.2012 , 10:28 AM | #25
Ok did complete it on my 4th attempt.

As a lvl 50 and healing specced with queyzan as my companion.

Once I figured out that you can interupt the death spell anytime while the ground is shaking it was pretty easy. I just saved force stun and mind snap for the 3 times I had to use interupt.

Unlike a regular channeling spell that shows a cast bar when beeing used this spell does not have that. But it still works as one so any stun spell will stop it. I would hazard to guess that force wave would have the same effect.

The Mass Force lift spell he uses is still annoying but bareable.

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hippiechick
07.11.2012 , 02:17 AM | #26
I was having a heck of a time, 5 tries in I was trying the LOS method and he somehow bugged out and stopped casting. I mean totally. I was able to tank n spank him down without worry. Cheesy? Yes. Was I relieved? HECK yes lol.

Shadow spec with Tharan.

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L_B_P
10.02.2012 , 01:32 PM | #27
Used Tharan and was just like walk in a park, didnt even got a scratch in my armor

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zorroazul
10.03.2012 , 09:13 AM | #28
Quote: Originally Posted by L_B_P View Post
Used Tharan and was just like walk in a park, didnt even got a scratch in my armor
Sadly, we easily miss this simple method. I was having so much fun being a shadow with Nadia, that I totally forgot about Tharan. Got killed 3 times by the First Son, until I decided to swicth to Tharan.

I still can't believe how easy was the fight.

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spooksfan
03.22.2013 , 03:57 AM | #29
im using tharan and still cant defeat him im lvl 50 got level 50 army jedi shadow .. no healing ability and he just kills me with storms etc i interrupted the rock fall but he killed me shortly after i have tried about 15 times
anyone got any tips for me because i dont think tharan heals me enough and medipacs take too long to cooldown

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slafko
03.22.2013 , 09:06 AM | #30
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