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High resolution textures: can we get a clarification on this?

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High resolution textures: can we get a clarification on this?

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eskachig
01.09.2012 , 12:03 AM | #1141
Quote: Originally Posted by Zorvan View Post
He's the same kind of technological cro-magnon that will emphatically proclaim that EAware can't add DX10/DX11 because then noone with DX9 cards could play.
To be honest, in general I'd rather companies just pick a standard and go with it. 90% of the time DX10/11 features are sort of tacked in a gimmicky fashion, on top of a DX9 engine, and it doesn't do anyone good. Most of the time the DX10 version is poorly optimized, looks a teeny bit better, and runs at half the speed.

There are definite exceptions though. DX:HR looked fabulous in DX11 and ran very well. The later STALKER games also did it well. But usually it's sort of a mess.

Witcher 2 did it right, they stuck with DX9, squeezed the best they could out of it, and optimized it as well as they could. And it looks amazing.

But now DX11 cards are fairly standard and have been for years. Maybe it is time to switch the focus. Unfortunately the XBOX is a DX9 platform so we're stuck as long as people make multi-platform games (meaning, they want to make money).

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Dubabob
01.09.2012 , 12:06 AM | #1142
Quote: Originally Posted by Aisar View Post
I don't even know where to start. "envious people who want everyone to play with terrible settings". what? you are out there man. lol
Why don't you try? Just choose something to argue against, you have already shown that you are more than capable of putting up an argument sp please do so, how about starting with the fact that graphics are SCALABLE! You can play with me in a group in TOR with low rez graphics while I could use high rez graphics.
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Karrayabe
01.09.2012 , 12:09 AM | #1143
Quote: Originally Posted by Aisar View Post
Yeah you are forgetting that the higher the graphics, the less subscriptions. It's all about money, bottom line.
I don't really understand the logic of this. If that were the case then everything would be text based and selling billions. Also, Nvidia and AMD wouldn't exist as no one would buy anything that would handle graphics well or games that are blockbusters due to graphics as a main differentiation point.

It's like saying, you don't think they should sell fast cars because you drive a GEO metro. You don't subscribe to the communist political philosophy by any chance do you? Just curious.

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Zorvan
01.09.2012 , 12:09 AM | #1144
Quote: Originally Posted by eskachig View Post
To be honest, in general I'd rather companies just pick a standard and go with it. 90% of the time DX10/11 features are sort of tacked in a gimmicky fashion, on top of a DX9 engine, and it doesn't do anyone good. Most of the time the DX10 version is poorly optimized, looks a teeny bit better, and runs at half the speed.

There are definite exceptions though. DX:HR looked fabulous in DX11 and ran very well. The later STALKER games also did it well. But usually it's sort of a mess.

Witcher 2 did it right, they stuck with DX9, squeezed the best they could out of it, and optimized it as well as they could. And it looks amazing.
Honestly, the majority of consumers are either stuck in the stone age still using DX9 cards ( like the diehards who still think XP is a premium OS ) or have upgraded to more recent to DX11 cards. DX10 as a whole never really got that much of a foothold outside of the 8800/9000 series for Nvidia and whatever the equivelant cards were for AMD, and they probably wouldn't alienate very many leaving DX10 completely out of the equation since all DX10 cards still support DX9.

DX11 just adds so much more to the table in terms of functionality and performance that it really makes no sense to not have it in a game released in 2011/2012.

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TheDetour
01.09.2012 , 12:10 AM | #1145
High probably ought to be higher in this game. Relabeling Medium to mean High is a pretty insulting, backhanded attempt at a sneaky move by BioWare, and not saying anything about it (like the player base won't find out about it... haha... PLEASE; you guys must think we're pretty dumb) is snarky at best.

BioWare has gotten this game about 95% right in my estimation, but some of the stuff they have gotten wrong (no hoodless option for Jedi Knights, this) have been terrible, horrible, awful mistakes that borderline on inexcusable.

Anti-aliasing is coming in 1.1. Let's hope that will improve graphical quality at least noticeably.
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Barracudastr
01.09.2012 , 12:13 AM | #1146
Its about time for bw employees to be waking up and taking a look at a thread with over 100 pages on this texture problem.... I smell a deletion or a response.... if neither happen screw it im outty. No reason for the silence.

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Dubabob
01.09.2012 , 12:13 AM | #1147
Quote: Originally Posted by Zorvan View Post
Honestly, the majority of consumers are either stuck in the stone age still using DX9 cards ( like the diehards who still think XP is a premium OS ) or have upgraded to more recent to DX11 cards. DX10 as a whole never really got that much of a foothold outside of the 8800/9000 series for Nvidia and whatever the equivelant cards were for AMD, and they probably wouldn't alienate very many leaving DX10 completely out of the equation since all DX10 cards still support DX9.

DX11 just adds so much more to the table in terms of functionality and performance that it really makes no sense to not have it in a game released in 2011/2012.
It's because consoles, which the majority of gaming are done on at the moment, still use DX9, once you see the next gen AKA current gen come out, you're going to see many more PC games take advantage of modern tech, of course they won't be taking advantage of the far more advanced stuff that PC will be using by the time the next gen of consoles go commercial.
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Zorvan
01.09.2012 , 12:15 AM | #1148
Quote: Originally Posted by carnac_fett View Post
Your posts are like flash-bang grenades packed with concentrated stupid.
Ohh, I like that.
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Karrayabe
01.09.2012 , 12:17 AM | #1149
Quote: Originally Posted by carnac_fett View Post
Your posts are like flash-bang grenades packed with concentrated stupid.
Lol! Stupidly does have the ability to stun.

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Dubabob
01.09.2012 , 12:31 AM | #1150
Heh, looks like he ran out of troll juice.

So I wonder if someone who works at BW is reading this. If they are, then they ought to consider how much better it is for their bottom line to communicate over being silent.
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