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Gearing in hard modes


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Maloss
01.06.2012 , 08:09 AM | #1
Is there any better gear to start doing Hard modes than PVP Champion gear?
That is not Operation or Hard mode reward gear.

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Karma_UK
01.06.2012 , 08:32 AM | #2
Rip mods out of your pvp gear and stick it in the oranges you probably already have.

Expensive but gives you good gear to enter hard modes with

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PhoenixMatrix
01.06.2012 , 08:37 AM | #3
Quote: Originally Posted by Maloss View Post
Is there any better gear to start doing Hard modes than PVP Champion gear?
That is not Operation or Hard mode reward gear.
The best stuff you have access to are champion/battlemaster PvP gears, the rataka ears/implants and mods from daily commendations, the armorings/mods/enhancements you get from doing the daily quests, and the occasional purple drops from those quests.

Anything beyond that you need to do hard mode/operations. Just getting those make a fairly huge difference.

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JuliusMidnight
01.06.2012 , 09:50 AM | #4
Quote: Originally Posted by PhoenixMatrix View Post
The best stuff you have access to are champion/battlemaster PvP gears, the rataka ears/implants and mods from daily commendations, the armorings/mods/enhancements you get from doing the daily quests, and the occasional purple drops from those quests.

Anything beyond that you need to do hard mode/operations. Just getting those make a fairly huge difference.
Just do the dailies he talked about. You can get a 50 epic mod, armoring and enhancement every day if you do the heroic daily quests on Ilum and Belsavis and can buy hilts/barrels/etc with the commendations pretty quickly. This way you're not rocking PvP stats while trying to do PvE stuff. As a healer, I HATE when I get tanks decked in PvP gear. Just cause it's higher level gear, doesn't mean it helps you survive.
A world without Damage Measurement
Quote: Originally Posted by Helagoth View Post
Without a damage meter, we'll be having things like "LFM for Eternity Vault, must be able to kill the First on Dromand kass in 45 seconds while we watch".

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demoncrat
01.06.2012 , 10:00 AM | #5
Quote: Originally Posted by JuliusMidnight View Post
Just do the dailies he talked about. You can get a 50 epic mod, armoring and enhancement every day if you do the heroic daily quests on Ilum and Belsavis and can buy hilts/barrels/etc with the commendations pretty quickly. This way you're not rocking PvP stats while trying to do PvE stuff. As a healer, I HATE when I get tanks decked in PvP gear. Just cause it's higher level gear, doesn't mean it helps you survive.
This is what I did. I have no idea why people are taking PVP gear into PVE.
Eternity Vault is one giant bug. Please fix it

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JuliusMidnight
01.06.2012 , 10:05 AM | #6
Quote: Originally Posted by demoncrat View Post
This is what I did. I have no idea why people are taking PVP gear into PVE.
Cause WoW lets them do it, so they think it's fine here too, of course. I don't know how much it gimps the damage dealers, but tanks just drop like a rock, that's for sure.
A world without Damage Measurement
Quote: Originally Posted by Helagoth View Post
Without a damage meter, we'll be having things like "LFM for Eternity Vault, must be able to kill the First on Dromand kass in 45 seconds while we watch".

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Demmok
01.06.2012 , 10:07 AM | #7
Actually champion gear is the best gear you can get outside of columni, which happens to be much more difficult to get. (Before nightmare mode)

Edit - to those of you railing against pvp gear you do realize that the only difference between pvp gear and the equivalent pve gear is the pve gear has more of your main stat plus endurance, right? I would never wear a piece of tionese over champion... ever. And I have tanked hard fps as well as all normal ops.

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KitePolaris
01.06.2012 , 10:11 AM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by Demmok View Post
Actually champion gear is the best gear you can get outside of columni, which happens to be much more difficult to get. (Before nightmare mode)

Edit - to those of you railing against pvp gear you do realize that the only difference between pvp gear and the equivalent pve gear is the pve gear has more of your main stat plus endurance, right? I would never wear a piece of tionese over champion... ever. And I have tanked hard fps as well as all normal ops.
I got my 4-set columi bonus in a week from just hard modes. The final bosses drop tokens.

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Demmok
01.06.2012 , 10:17 AM | #9
Quote: Originally Posted by KitePolaris View Post
I got my 4-set columi bonus in a week from just hard modes. The final bosses drop tokens.
I have terrible luck so I have no columi. Champ bags have been more kind to me and given me 3 pieces, which will be replaced as soon as I actually do get my columi.

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JuliusMidnight
01.06.2012 , 10:19 AM | #10
Quote: Originally Posted by Demmok View Post
Actually champion gear is the best gear you can get outside of columni, which happens to be much more difficult to get. (Before nightmare mode)

Edit - to those of you railing against pvp gear you do realize that the only difference between pvp gear and the equivalent pve gear is the pve gear has more of your main stat plus endurance, right? I would never wear a piece of tionese over champion... ever. And I have tanked hard fps as well as all normal ops.
I know the stats the gear has and that it sorely lacks defense along with every bit of Expertise being completely useless in a PvE setting. There's a little more absorption than Defense, but not much still. If you've tanked that much in it, thank your healer as you made it more painful for him than it needed to be.
A world without Damage Measurement
Quote: Originally Posted by Helagoth View Post
Without a damage meter, we'll be having things like "LFM for Eternity Vault, must be able to kill the First on Dromand kass in 45 seconds while we watch".