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The Revan Novel (spoilers) and how i started worry about my Jedi story

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The Revan Novel (spoilers) and how i started worry about my Jedi story

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sanzen
01.05.2012 , 11:39 PM | #1
So there is no search function and I really want to talk about his novel, so sorry if I missed the entire discussion if it has already been had.

Personally this was the worst novel I have ever read. I actually regret rading it.
Mostly because it did not deliver what it promised.This was supposed to be the novel to explain and show what Revan found in the outer rim, show the power of the new Sith Empire and what happend.

What it did was something else. The author, who clearly just wanna write about the Sith, presented a new character and based the book about him instead of Revan, made him the main character and Revan into a side character. There was more sith philosophies debatted in the book than there were jedi, and the jedi was, as always, presented as some backward striving closeminded people.

A few examples from the book which bothered me. Spoilers ahead.

- Scourge, what was the point of this character, did we really need a sith lord in a book about Revan, and did he really need to be the main character.

- Revans inaction, what did he actually do, he fought some Mandalorians, got imprisoned, help kill a sith lord (the one cool thing he did), get caught again after a very anticlimax facedown with the emperor.

- Immersion in the story, I never get caught in the story at all, escpeially the ending whicch could have been done so well, it feels like he simply did not want to write anymore and just hurried the story.
At the end, I did not feel anything for Meetra or Revan, i just felt: Meehh.

- The sith afraid of the jedi? Ok, this one came to me as the biggest surprise ever, was teh sith actually afraid of invading the Republic, was it only the emperor who actually wanted to invade the republic, I thought all the work he did from when he actually became emperor was to prepare for this invasion. That the entire empire worked so well because they had this one goal to look forward to. They actually say this in the timelines.
He could not have done this without a few other sith who wanted to invade teh republic.
The sith in the game thinks the invasion is a really good idea, how could this have changed in such short time? Yes 300 years is a short time to change a view which had been dominated for over 1000 years.

After reading this I am even more worried about my Jedi story, i am only level 22 and at Taris, however if this is the author to my Jedi story, someone who clearly cant keep from makíng a Sith the main character in a Novel about one of the greatest Jedi ever, what will he do to the Jedi story?

Hope someone has the fortitude to read all this and come with opions.

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Acks
01.06.2012 , 12:36 AM | #2
Well SPOILER ALERT Scrounge ends up as one of your companions around level 40 as a jedi knight and your character is in fact the jedi that Scrounge had a vision about defeating the emperor.

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BenjaminminU
01.06.2012 , 05:45 AM | #3
Quote: Originally Posted by sanzen View Post
This was supposed to be the novel to explain and show what Revan found in the outer rim, show the power of the new Sith Empire and what happend.
Well actually the novel does show that, it includes the backstory to Lord Scourge to give some more depth to the sith empire. If it had stuck with Revan the whole time all we'd have heard about was Nathema and a small part of Dromund Kaas. To me the story showed a huge build up towards the final confrontation with the sith emperor and then showed his power by defeating Revan. Then Scourge decides to wait for the jedi from his vision (The Jedi Knight) to come and defeat the emperor.
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DavieDe
01.06.2012 , 06:07 AM | #4
Quote: Originally Posted by sanzen View Post
jedi was, as always, presented as some backward striving closeminded people.
Have to say alot of the lore points to the jedi being a bit closed minded

1 they reject emotions rather then teach how to deal with them
2 they have left millions die rather than go to war
3 they gloss over the fact that a large portion of there order has rejected the councils decision and gone to war anway

and as for the sith being afraid of the Jedi, There whole civilization was nearly wiped out by them they know if they reveal themselves and loose the jedi will hunt them down and destroy everything they can to do with them.

If you look at it from a future perspective after the Jedi win the war it looks like they erased much of the history concerning the sith, very little is know about them in the future to the point of many of the planets in the empire in swtor are unknown in bby. The whole chiss race is forgotten even
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Aoussar
01.06.2012 , 06:58 AM | #5
I completely agree with the OP.. I'm lvl 40 jk now, and oh my how it sucks.. The book was bad, but the Jedi Knight story in the game is even worse. What you do from lvl 1-20 is not memorable, same goes for 20-40. I can not recall some of the "major" story points since they all seem.. well, meh. It was only at lvl 20 and 40 where you got some sort of story part that was all right, but lasted for like 10 minutes.. Wth?

The dialogue sucks too, lines like "A Jedi of the Light will always protect those in need.", in the game makes me wanna rip my ears off. Who actually says that???? Try to say it to yourself and see how dumb it sounds... The Jedi Knight is even worse written than the prequels.. So far, of the three classes i've played, (Smugg, SW and JK), it seems only the Smuggler and SW have good writing. Oh the disappointment, and this is what Star Wars is all about....

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Omnitheo
01.06.2012 , 11:36 AM | #6
wow really, Jedi story being uneventful?


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I played JK in beta, and finished the entire story. I thought it was awesome. Stereotypical Star Wars, but that only helped make it more epic. The Revan book provided everything I wanted, giving so much more importance to my JK story.

You can dislike Drew K. as much as you want, but not only did he write large amounts of story in this game, he also made the Darth Bane books, and was the main writer in KoTOR. Therefor, Revan is his character to do what he wants with. I wouldn't have wanted the story to be any different.

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UncleTom
01.06.2012 , 02:49 PM | #7
Quote: Originally Posted by Acks View Post
Well SPOILER ALERT Scrounge ends up as one of your companions around level 40 as a jedi knight and your character is in fact the jedi that Scrounge had a vision about defeating the emperor.
How is scourge still alive 300 years later?

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xDarkSidexx
01.06.2012 , 02:55 PM | #8
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UncleTom
01.06.2012 , 04:14 PM | #9
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ZombieClownz
01.06.2012 , 04:21 PM | #10
I actually have to agree with the OP about the Revan novel. To me it was terrible. When I first got it, I was excited to read about Revan. The Jedi/Sith/Jedi/BAMF tearing **** up.

Instead I got a useless story about a sith lord that I hated, two other characters associated with the sith that I wanted to just die in a fire, and a predictable plot device at the end of the novel. On top of that, Revan himself, was less than, less than epic, less that interesting, less than everything I had hoped for.

I was expecting to be drawn up in the story and the character like I was in the Darth Bane series, and it was a total and complete let down.