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Why no imperial trooper


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MJHoyle
01.05.2012 , 09:21 PM | #21
I think he's thinking of storm troopers. Yes there were proper storm troopers dressed in white plastic icecream boxes in the films working for the empire. It does seem a bit odd that there are troopers working for the republic because if memory serves me I never saw any republic troppers in the films, or I just haven't watched star wars enough and need to refresh my memory.
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ColonelColt
01.05.2012 , 09:23 PM | #22
Quote: Originally Posted by krisslanza View Post
You're again overestimating the importance of soldiers in the Empire. They have zero authority of any kind. Republic troopers at least have some, particularly the special forces.

And yes the Agent isn't military, but the game flat out mentions that an Imperial Agent is the pinnacle of power any non-Sith can ever hope to achieve in the Empire. Although I think even a slave acolyte has more authority and power then an Agent.
I don't understand what your definition of "authority" is. Republic troopers have zero authority of any kind, even their special forces. Their authority extends to the mission they are on and no farther, the EXACT same as with the Empire's soldiers. So what exactly do you mean by "authority". A special forces trooper can't come into the senate and start barking out orders to senators, just the same way an imperial trooper can't start barking orders to sith. They're the exact same authority wise and power wise. So please explain what you mean because I am woefully confused how you think republic troopers somehow have more say then imperial troopers.

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alienstalker
01.05.2012 , 09:23 PM | #23
Quote: Originally Posted by krisslanza View Post
The problem being that Imperial Troopers? Aren't important. At all. It would be hard to make a storyline about someone who has absolutely no power in the Empire at all.
Thats the point. I don't always want to be important.

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Nemhauser
01.05.2012 , 09:23 PM | #24
As I see it, there are only two classes completely tied to their faction: the Republic trooper and the Imperial agent. Bounty hunters and smugglers mainly care about themselves (and their cash), while the Sith and Jedi have their own Order whose interests sometimes clash with that of the their faction.

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Dianoia
01.05.2012 , 09:24 PM | #25
Because Boba Fett is awesome, and Storm Trooper (uncredited) isn't.

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alienstalker
01.05.2012 , 09:26 PM | #26
Quote: Originally Posted by krisslanza View Post
Not entirely true. The Republic Trooper is special forces. They're several rungs on the ladder higher then rank and file.

The Imperials? The HIGHEST rank a non-Sith can ever achieve is an Agent. Everyone else? Garbage that can be killed because a Sith Lord is in a bad mood and you happened to be around.
The republic troopers is not a special forces! You on drugs or something, there the default trooper. And imperial troopers are no less than republic troopers. And plus as the imperial trooper you'll be trying not to get on the sith warriors bad side, while also trying to help the empire in battles.

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Ifoughtthelaw
01.05.2012 , 09:26 PM | #27
The class system was structured to give mirror gameplay on both sides with as many unique storylines as possible. If you want to serve the Empire as a non Sith, you can be an Agent. If you want to serve the Republic as a non-Jedi, you can be a Trooper. If you want to be a freelancer type character, you can be a Bounty Hunter on Empire side and Smuggler on Republic side.

It is not easy to just create an entire storyline. People want to play BH and it just happens to be a class that could mirror the Trooper well. The storyline of a BH is totally different than that of a Trooper. Having an Imperial Trooper would require tons of different heavy aim gear to drop and having the BH be on both sides would inhibit their ability to actually look like a bounty hunter instead of taking the troopers' gear.

In short: the developers are not gods that can create as many storylines as you want. The trooper and bounty hunter are both heavy armor wearing explosive shooters with completely different storylines.
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alienstalker
01.05.2012 , 09:27 PM | #28
Quote: Originally Posted by ColonelColt View Post
This is not at all how it works. Besides, special forces or not they still have no authority. They have more flexibility, but that does not equate to power. They are still held on a leash just the same as every other trooper in the republic.

Also, do you honestly believe the Empire doesn't have special forces? Their agents are analogs of republic SIS agents, not special forces troopers. The Empire has said in numerous quests that they as well have special forces. And agent isn't a rank in the military, it's part of Intelligence. It's the CIA of the Empire, entirely independent of the Military.

Bottom line, there is no reason why the Empire couldn't have a trooper. Woulda been far better then bounty hunters playing the mirror of a soldier.
Thank you, well said.

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MJHoyle
01.05.2012 , 09:27 PM | #29
nvm, someone else put it in a better perspective than I did.
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[PlayerY]: no you mean nien numb or something like that hehe
[PlayerY]: nien nunb
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Pyrolight
01.05.2012 , 09:27 PM | #30
Quote: Originally Posted by ColonelColt View Post
This is true, but this is also a GOOD thing. Just because you mirror a class doesn't mean you mirror their story. So while there could be an imperial trooper class, it'd have it's own unique story. And it could involve the different dynamics between soldiers and their superiors in the Empire. Showcase how sith run everything and even a lowly acolyte is a 'Lord' to you.
I agree there is potential there but the question is could you write it in a satisfying way that would not be too cliche (wins the respect of the sith yada yada) or down right depressing aka 50 levels mimicking what you see in the tomb of Ajunta Pall :P