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From a Goldman Analyst Perspective on SWTOR

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From a Goldman Analyst Perspective on SWTOR

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MrTijger
01.05.2012 , 06:42 PM | #71
Quote: Originally Posted by Scoobings View Post
None of that matters, because they aren't competing with WoW at launch. That's what he's saying. It needs to be good now or else people will go back to WoW.
Then perhaps you need to read what real analysts say on that exact point.

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Boundd
01.05.2012 , 06:42 PM | #72
Quote: Originally Posted by Scoobings View Post
I don't care if he is a real GS analyst or not, it doesn't matter because he's right. This is what people don't understand is they aren't competing against WoW 7 years ago, they're competing against WoW NOW. You need to release a polished game on release, with most if not all of the features one has come to expect from WoW or else your game will crater.

BW I still think can save it, this update about the state of PVP and the coming patch is really reassuring, and even if this game DOES totally fail I'm still going to play all 8 classes and their story lines all the way through. So I'm here for a while that's for sure. But they do need to get their **** together, because the honeymoon is over.
Wait, you don't care if he lies to gain credibility?! LOL. How can you, knowing he's a liar honestly take anything he says seriously?

Then you imply SWTOR needs massive improvement but you're going to play EIGHT CLASSES TO 50!

Wow.

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Scoobings
01.05.2012 , 06:42 PM | #73
Quote: Originally Posted by Cameirus View Post
I dont care who he is. I happen to agree with most of what he says.


I note that almost all objections to this post are over his credentials, not the content...yet to see a single decent rebuttal.
This.

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Revbem
01.05.2012 , 06:44 PM | #74
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthBiz View Post
tl;dr

guy thinks he knows urrythang
Economy needs fail investors like you.

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audioedge
01.05.2012 , 06:44 PM | #75
Quote: Originally Posted by SnoggyMack View Post
Pretty sure Terrance Stamp bestowed that title to Gene Hackman. So you're Gene Hackman? Neat!
This is the funniest thing Ive ever read on a forum. Fact.

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MrTijger
01.05.2012 , 06:45 PM | #76
Quote: Originally Posted by Scoobings View Post
This.
Cannot rebut an opinion, its not like he uses provable facts.

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Daeborn
01.05.2012 , 06:45 PM | #77
Quote: Originally Posted by Scoobings View Post
This.
That's called reinforcing one's belief. That does not mean he's right. He just happens to reinforce your belief.

Are people really this naive?

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Scoobings
01.05.2012 , 06:45 PM | #78
Quote: Originally Posted by Boundd View Post
Wait, you don't care if he lies to gain credibility?! LOL.

Then you imply SWTOR needs massive improvement but you're going to play EIGHT CLASSES TO 50!

Wow.
I didn't say it doesn't have strong points. The leveling is fantastic. Truly the most fun I've had in an MMO. Once I hit 50 was when the honeymoon ended for me. The game is a drag at level 50 for all the reasons he mentioned. I'm already starting an alt because frankly I couldn't be bothered with level 50 content because of how lackluster it is.

What I'm hoping for, because I love the game at it's early levels, is for the game to get it's **** together by the time I'm finished playing those other classes through. BW has my money, but not everyone is as nerdy as me when it comes to enjoying a good story (which is something BW has always done well.)

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Mezla
01.05.2012 , 06:46 PM | #79
Quote: Originally Posted by Cameirus View Post
I dont care who he is. I happen to agree with most of what he says.


I note that almost all objections to this post are over his credentials, not the content...yet to see a single decent rebuttal.
That would mean that I have to read his drivel. I read better insights into the world of business in the Frankfurt airport toilet stalls.

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Concede
01.05.2012 , 06:46 PM | #80
Quote: Originally Posted by danatharia View Post
Why would a Goldman-Sachs analyst post on the SWTOR forums citing reasons why he thinks the game should/will fail?

I have an idea: Maybe he wants it to fail as he has told investors that it will?

Why would anyone who has foreseen that this game will crash and burn to bits decide to still purchase a copy of the game if he has absolutely no belief in it?

Two important questions that need an answer.

Now, what do I think? His criticism is not off, it is painfully obvious that the game is lacking, but I don't think it is lacking as bad as he makes it out to be. Oh, you levelled to 50 in 2 weeks and then complain that the game is a grind while saluting World of Warcraft for not being so? Oh, haha, there your credibility disappeared inot thin air.

I remember well how I had to grind for WEEKS to get my Shattered Sun Offensive reputation, quests without any immersion or thought behind them: "Kill x of those, bomb y of those, gather z of those" "Why? "We don't know". The entire concept of WoW is that you have a constant carrot on a stick in front of your face because the game doesn't provide you with any other content. In fact, that is how MMOs work, though some (SWTOR included) do it more elegantly than others.

My bet is that this isn't an analyst by any stretch and that this is just another disgruntled former WoW-fan who hoped for a WoW-copy set in space with lightsabers but didn't find it.
your post make sense but i want to ask you a question. can this game compete with the current wow