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From a Goldman Analyst Perspective on SWTOR

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From a Goldman Analyst Perspective on SWTOR

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Abriael
01.06.2012 , 12:18 AM | #471
Quote: Originally Posted by Yowfatto View Post
No goldman analyst has the time to play MMO's endlessly as this OP does. Heck, 90% of people don't have the time to get to lvl 50 in 2 weeks, I'm only 40 and it will probably take me another month to get to 50. This OP is not an analyst and anyone who thinks so is truly naive and ignorant.
No goldman analyst (or any industry professional of any kind or affiliation) would ever post this kind of analysis on a forum, would ever go ahed and identify himself as such with this kind of arrogance, and even more than that, would ever say that this game has or ever had 4-5 million subscribers.

Analysts are often wrong, but at the very least they have their basic numbers right, and this dude simply does not. 4-5 million subscribers for this game exist only in the wet dreams of the developers and every EA executive still able to dream.

I don't think even the most rabid and blind fanboy would go ahead and throw such a ridiculously random number.

His posts are full of opinionated dribble and thinly veiled misinformation, and that's pretty evident to anyone that has even a finger (not even a full foot) into the door of this industry.

This guy discredited himself with his first post, and I'm actually having a laugh seeing that people are still here while I had the time to record a whole podcast and interview a perspective writer.

Good times

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dyves
01.06.2012 , 12:19 AM | #472
Meh, another opinion with a nice ribbon around it by someone who claims to be an investor who has never been wrong, never seen that one before... Oh wait, actually I have all the time

Well, only some comments on his subjective story:
- Aion made something like over 200 million dollars a year or so ago worldwide in revenues, so they must be doing something right, I guess.
- so far, player activity in various tools show an increase instead of a decline.
- OP is another guy who thinks how he regards things and his tastes are representative for the whole MMO playerbase, which it's clearly not as everyone using their brains and common sense would know
- Bioware hasn't squandered their brand name only building on the SW name, it should be obvious that there are far more people who were inclined to give SWTOR a chance because it's BW doing it than because it's Star Wars. Those who doubt only have to look at how many players started playing the other SW MMO SWG, or how many players started playing an equally big IP MMO, LotrO, and then compare it with the numbers that SWTOR gained. That is as clear the BW effect and brand as can be determined by process of elimination the other factors.

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dyves
01.06.2012 , 12:19 AM | #473
Quote: Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
No goldman analyst would ever post this kind of analysis on a forum, would ever go ahed and identify himself as such, and even more than that, would ever say that this game has or ever had 4-5 million subscribers.

This guy discredited himself with his first post
This.

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Blackwater
01.06.2012 , 12:21 AM | #474
+1 i agree...



Also, thank the rest of Goldman Sachs for ruining our economy and buying our politicians

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Liquidacid
01.06.2012 , 12:22 AM | #475
I am Emperor God of the Milky way Galaxy, true story btw, and I say the OP is full of ****...

it's on the internet therefor it must be true... now I'm off the update my own Wikipedia page
"bibo ergo sum" ( I drink, therefore I am)

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Leporello
01.06.2012 , 12:23 AM | #476
Quote: Originally Posted by Blackwater View Post
+1 i agree...



Also, thank the rest of Goldman Sachs for ruining our economy and buying our politicians
Don't give them that much credit, you're just inflating their already disproportionate egos.

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vekkth
01.06.2012 , 12:30 AM | #477
Quote: Originally Posted by Elgarr View Post
Problem is, why do your friends have to be like the op?

Sorry but one of the largest banks in Russia?
You come across like the op
Well, ironically, my story is true since i can msg you bank name, then my facebook acc and you will see him in my friendlist. what makes me and OP different that i state from the start - this is my OPINION, it is not an ANALYSIS, a prediction, that i am not a jedi and cant be 100 percent sure but i SUPPOSE that he is not a real professional like he pretends he is, because, again, i've seen those. He acts more of a student or a recent graduee, but he is as far from being financial/marketing consultant in a company of Goldmans level as he ever can.

Ironically, my other friend is a real attorney and IRONICALLY he is one of a well known Russian social network marketing specialist, he has a b2b company that helps investors build startups and sell them after. Again, know how people on that level think, how do they work. its not like this.

Btw, i really do have a lot of friends from a broad selection of social levels. Performing musicians get a lot of people to know

and i know my english is sleepy in the morning, so - sorry.

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Uncommonname
01.06.2012 , 12:31 AM | #478
Quote: Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
No goldman analyst (or any industry professional of any kind or affiliation) would ever post this kind of analysis on a forum, would ever go ahed and identify himself as such with this kind of arrogance, and even more than that, would ever say that this game has or ever had 4-5 million subscribers.

Analysts are often wrong, but at the very least they have their basic numbers right, and this dude simply does not. 4-5 million subscribers for this game exist only in the wet dreams of the developers and every EA executive still able to dream.

I don't think even the most rabid and blind fanboy would go ahead and throw such a ridiculously random number.

His posts are full of opinionated dribble and thinly veiled misinformation, and that's pretty evident to anyone that has even a finger (not even a full foot) into the door of this industry.

This guy discredited himself with his first post, and I'm actually having a laugh seeing that people are still here while I had the time to record a whole podcast and interview a perspective writer.

Good times

Moreover, a Goldman analyst would have more sense than to represent himself as such without the authorization of his company.

By attaching the Goldman name to this post, it is possible, however unlikely, that this rant would be picked up as the "official" Goldman position on the profitability of the game. I would think that the higher ups at his company - assuming he actually works there - would be highly displeased at his using their name and he/she better hope Bioware is not amenable to shareing IP Address information.


I won't even speculate what regulatory issues this post could get into just on the usage of clearly wild and unresearched numbers.


I am either calling BS on this post or wonder how much longer this guy will actually be a "Goldman Analyst".

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Jhonen
01.06.2012 , 12:32 AM | #479
Quote: Originally Posted by Yowfatto View Post
WoW is a dying game, lost millions last year and will lose just as many if not more this year, pretty soon all that will be left are the millions of chinese gold farmers spamming each other.
I wouldn't go that far, but MoP doesn't seem to be impressing anyone.
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Nonameperson
01.06.2012 , 12:34 AM | #480
OP is just full of it, ijs