From a Goldman Analyst Perspective on SWTOR

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From a Goldman Analyst Perspective on SWTOR

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ChimaeraUK

01.05.2012 , 07:15 PM \| #191
Quote: Originally Posted by Bodypull A bunch of response. Those saying "a fake" are either delusional or cannot afford to live in Manhattan :-) <blah blah blah> Those of us the went to Harvard / Stern / Wharton / Columbia... You have some pretty serious ego issues, you might even be making some valid points but the size of your head is getting in the way.

Mr_Crueak

01.05.2012 , 07:15 PM \| #192
Quote: Originally Posted by Kurenar I've cancelled my sub as have many others, does that not count as bleeding? no, not if you have the same ammount or more influx of new players to counter the ones that are leaving. Takes 2 peices of information to figure out if playerbase is bleeding or not. It could be, but we nor anyone else but bioware or EA knows for a fact, the rest of us can only guess and that is just that a guess nothing else. wasted space as far as i'm concerned

Daeborn

01.05.2012 , 07:15 PM \| #193
Quote: Originally Posted by Bodypull wow 17 pages. Well it is a bait thread after all.

Mormack

01.05.2012 , 07:15 PM \| #194
Quote: Originally Posted by Zmidponk Who? Using what figures? From where? Check the WoW forums some time. Even when the subscription numbers were skyrocketing (instead of declining, like they have been doing), there were quite a number of whiny 'I QUIT' posts. Nothing can be inferred from that, other than that some people like to whine. Not to mention this little gem right here that has been around for forever: Quote: What killed WoW? rooftop camping the removal of rooftop camping the lack of honor the implementation of honor the lack of dishonor the implementation of dishonor the removal of dishonor the removal of wall walking rank rewards decaying rank the removal of rank decay the removal of PVP titles Ahn'Qiraj Scourge Invasion Zul'Gurub the cost of mounts the lack of information about TBC all information released about TBC playable Blood Elves playable Draenei Horde Paladins Alliance Shaman flying mounts the timing of the release of TBC the cost of flight, Jewelcrafting the LFG channel holding people accountable to the Terms of Use meeting stones arenas the number of arena teams one player can have arena-based gear rewards the lack of battlegrounds the addition of battlegrounds everything about battlegrounds Illidan being killable Daily quests instance-based reputations the Darkmoon Faire /pizza playable wisps Tinfoil Hat the Armory Warden the lack of information about Wrath all information about Wrath a failure to revamp old world areas the inability to transfer from PVE to PVP servers hero classes siege engines cold weather flying Wintergrasp being a PVP zone death knights the inability to start a new character of any class at 55 or higher the lack of a dance studio character recustomization the inability to change race or faction the cost of mammoths and motorcycles Spirit of Competition the fall damage negation of mammoths and motorcycles the removal of fall damage negation from mammoths and motorcycles the ability to transfer from PVE to PVP servers dual specs Achievements holiday events Mountain Dew Game Fuel streaming Blizzcon �09 on pay per view the revamping of Onyxia�s Lair Worgen for the Alliance Goblins for the Horde revamped old world areas the ability to change faction the ability to change race new race/class combinations purchasable vanity pets Icecrown Citadel cross realm LFG Celestial Steeds the Disenchant option added to Need/Greed combining raid lockouts the initial announcement, then delay, then lack of information, then announcement, of the new X-53 Touring Rocket RAF reward mount the removal of Path of the Titans Archaeology changes to Archaeology the introduction of RealID as an option to the game servers the introduction of RealID as a matter of mandatory disclosure for forum participation as well as weekly maintenance and patches 1.1 through the current one inclusive.

Abriael

01.05.2012 , 07:16 PM \| #195
Quote: Originally Posted by Kurenar Man fanboy you're getting rage foam on my jacket! No one but BW can provide absolute proof of any numbers right now, should that stop all logical speculation? I've cancelled my sub as have many others, does that not count as bleeding? And for anyone with no shred of logic (because it takes lacking any kind of logic to cancel a mmo subscription before the free priod even runs out) that drops, there are others that join.. So no, no "beeding" can be proved at the moment.

Malphas

01.05.2012 , 07:16 PM \| #196
Well, he also said swtor had 4-5 million subs. I'm pretty sure if there were ever that many Bioware would have announced it.

onanonehand

01.05.2012 , 07:16 PM \| #197
Bioware is a company (captain obvious...I know). They did the research. They developed a product. Now they are building a customer base. They will succeed or they won't. They did more research than the goldman guy. Yeah chest puffery is in vogue. I don't know if Bioware/EA will succeed and neither does the goldman guy. I will say this, if my financial advisor was suggesting I invest in a video game I would be looking for a new advisor. If any of the posters here think their input will make or break this game, they need to be medicated.

Mackuss

01.05.2012 , 07:16 PM \| #198
Extremely well written, OP, and I agree with absolutely everything. I suspect a lot of peolpe are "disagreeing" with you, but because they are incapable of understanding what you are saying, and why you are saying it.
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SnoggyMack

01.05.2012 , 07:16 PM \| #199
Quote: Originally Posted by Bodypull Star Wars has a large following, however ... How many Star Wars fans play MMO's? MMO's appeal to the same "audience" that comic books, video games, and other pop culture appeal to. How many Star Wars fans play World of Warcraft? A lot. Quote: Star Trek online failed because they banked on Brand Recognition and the mislead confidence that Star Trek fans play MMO's, most do not. (or simp;y those that do, opted for a better game.) Star Trek Online failed because: 1- Perpetual took money and wasted years of development time. 2- Cryptic Studios built the game on the engine that was initially designed for a super hero MMORPG (which was first for Marvel but then became Champions). They then were given 18 months to pump out the game. 3- They released it with one and a half factions and a terrible exploration system. 4- They then spent the next two years not developing the game's content properly. Case in point, they went the entirety of 2010 releasing only ONE featured episode arc. 5- Speaking of 2010, Atari ... wow what a mess. The game failed because of poor development. Don't believe me? You ALL can play it for free on January 17. You continually demonstrate a complete lack of experience with the genre that you claim to give analysis and advice about. Your expertise is lacking. You should probably be giving more investment advice on cars, as your car analogy (a classic and extremely weak internet talking point) was stronger and deeper than anything you've posted about MMORPGs.
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TheHeadCapper

01.05.2012 , 07:16 PM \| #200
Quote: Originally Posted by Xugos Evidently, the OP's well-reasoned and logical post has made many a fanboy's cranium implode. The basics of data analysis/analytics, which he doesn't follow. Nothing to do with liking or disliking the game, but you guys are clueless. I'm offended as an analyst not as an SWTOR player �Data collection �Data collation �Summary measures of the data �Conclusions based on the above Data collection - no it's a gut feeling Data collation - he doesn't have any data Summary of data - no he doesn't hav any data Conclusion based on data - impossible he doesn't have any data
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