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Finding Groups for Flashpoints is Frustrating


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Smurfsauce
01.05.2012 , 03:22 PM | #21
Quote: Originally Posted by androidzorz View Post
The only problem with skipping flashpoints is that when you go back and do the quest when you're higher level you get something like 5XP for completing the quest when you're done. This may just be after you already ran said flashpoint, but if you're only gonna get 5XP for it, what's the point of making it a daily quest? Just to be able to do the bonus mission again?
To do the flashpoint and see what it's like. That's the only reason. Of course you're going to get extremely low exp because you don't need to do the flashpoint for any other reason. There are still dailies around your level anyway.

Why even bother waiting around and NOT leveling if that's your main concern? Just ask yourself that since you brought it up. I gave you a perfectly good solution just for that reason.

My point is that if you can get a group in a short amount of time, more power to you and good luck. If you can't and no one's bothering to do it then why look stupid just asking around for 30 minutes or more on end when you could be enjoying the main aspect of the game?

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androidzorz
01.05.2012 , 03:30 PM | #22
Quote: Originally Posted by Smurfsauce View Post
To do the flashpoint and see what it's like. That's the only reason. Of course you're going to get extremely low exp because you don't need to do the flashpoint for any other reason. There are still dailies around your level anyway.

Why even bother waiting around and NOT leveling if that's your main concern? Just ask yourself that since you brought it up. I gave you a perfectly good solution just for that reason.

My point is that if you can get a group in a short amount of time, more power to you and good luck. If you can't and no one's bothering to do it then why look stupid just asking around for 30 minutes or more on end when you could be enjoying the main aspect of the game?
I definitely don't wait around when I can't find a group. But It's pretty ridiculous when I get 5XP from doing Black Talon/Esseles for the second time when I'm only level 15 and it's a 10ish flashpoint. (I know I could go do Hammer Station at 15, but that's not the point) Trust me, I'm not talking about being level 50 and wondering why BT gives me no XP. I did Foundry at level 42, I believe it's about a level 38 flashpoint, Why does a measly 4 level gap mean that I get practically nothing from it except XP from killing mobs? I The mobs weren't grey, in which case I would understand, and the bosses were still a pretty decent challenge, it's not like we ran through the place and powered through it in 20 minutes.

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Maxxian
01.05.2012 , 03:35 PM | #23
I really feel for you guys but I must admit I am really confused. I have yet to have to wait more then 10-15 min forming a group for flashpoints and I am on a "standard" populated server. Maybe I am just lucky...or a healer...or a leader...FIIK

P.S. I am pro global LFG channel...no harm in that.

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jonnybigboy
01.05.2012 , 03:39 PM | #24
15 minutes @ fleet spamming LFG is *STILL* too much. I don't like fleet. At all. It's laggy and general is filled with such garbage my eyes bleed. I'd like to be doing my dailies or helping guildies level up or managing my inventory on ship or doing ANYTHING other than waiting for ~5 minutes to pass so I can hit enter-uparrow-enter. Again.

Then again, there are nights like last night where I found a group in under 5 minutes and we ran 3 FPs. I was in heaven.

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ghettogenius
01.05.2012 , 03:40 PM | #25
Quote: Originally Posted by androidzorz View Post
I definitely don't wait around when I can't find a group. But It's pretty ridiculous when I get 5XP from doing Black Talon/Esseles for the second time when I'm only level 15 and it's a 10ish flashpoint. (I know I could go do Hammer Station at 15, but that's not the point) Trust me, I'm not talking about being level 50 and wondering why BT gives me no XP. I did Foundry at level 42, I believe it's about a level 38 flashpoint, Why does a measly 4 level gap mean that I get practically nothing from it except XP from killing mobs? I The mobs weren't grey, in which case I would understand, and the bosses were still a pretty decent challenge, it's not like we ran through the place and powered through it in 20 minutes.
Ouch. 4 levels over and youre getting massive XP reductions? Was it still green? This worries me a bit as Im 32 and completely missed all of the FPs from 25 up. was planning on hitting a few tonight as they were still green but now Im having second thoughts.

I havent noticed but are there any powerleveling restrictions in place now? We had an 18 with us on BT once, but I dont remember losing any XP over it so I assume it only effects those over level.
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androidzorz
01.05.2012 , 03:51 PM | #26
Quote: Originally Posted by ghettogenius View Post
Ouch. 4 levels over and youre getting massive XP reductions? Was it still green? This worries me a bit as Im 32 and completely missed all of the FPs from 25 up. was planning on hitting a few tonight as they were still green but now Im having second thoughts.

I havent noticed but are there any powerleveling restrictions in place now? We had an 18 with us on BT once, but I dont remember losing any XP over it so I assume it only effects those over level.
My green missions right now are Cademimu and Mandalorian Raiders (If I'm remembering right). Not even going to waste my time in MR, I know I won't get anything from it, the bosses in Cade might still give me XP but not the normal mobs. It never fails though, whenever I have gone back and done a flashpoint for a second time upon completion I get the "mission complete" popup and the reward is 5XP. It may just be because when I go back I tend to be 2-4 levels higher than when I first ran it. I haven't ran the same flashpoint twice within the same level before, I'll test that tonight, but as I said before why make the missions repeatable if you basically get nothing when you're done? I know you get to redo the bonus quest and you get a couple thousand XP for that if you do it, but that seems to be the only thing that makes doing lower flashpoints remotely worth it besides the possibility of gear. (But 8K for a bonus mission essentially doesn't mean anything either when you're higher level and it takes 300K+ XP to level.)

EDIT: My green dailies from the box on the fleet at 42 were definitely Boarding Party and Foundry, Not Cade and MR. Still only got 5XP for Foundry at the time when it was the higher of the two.

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demoncrat
01.05.2012 , 03:54 PM | #27
LFD tool kills community.

Or that's the excuse Bioware uses for their incompetence.
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androidzorz
01.05.2012 , 03:56 PM | #28
Quote: Originally Posted by demoncrat View Post
LFD tool kills community.

Or that's the excuse Bioware uses for their incompetence.
I would be all for a same-server LFD system, just not cross-server.

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shaunj
01.05.2012 , 03:59 PM | #29
At the very least a global channel would be nice. It will probably turn into WoW trade chat, but anything is better than this.

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LeSamourai
01.05.2012 , 04:01 PM | #30
Quote: Originally Posted by Moricthian View Post
Apparently because some people don't have your problem, nobody should have a LFD tool.
They don't really NEED a LFD. What the OP said is what they need: level/global chat. The issue is that only searching for groups on the Fleet will net you a select few people; the rest are out questing...and you can't reach them unless you go to wherever they are and advertise there.

It's not as bad on Empire...but Republic, yea lol good luck finding anything past Esseles. I've seen the same couple people advertising for Hammer/Athiss/Mando/Cad for about a week now. I messaged them the other day and they all said they had either done the respective FP once, or not at all. Seriously, sad.com
meh, I just want to play SWTOR