Why are so many people saying this game is bad?

Im a massive Bioware/Star wars fan and have been following the game for a few years and I wont lie,the game is good and I enjoyed the game it until I was 50 for a few weeks(gets boring real quick), all the bugs and glitches dont bother me because i know they will get fixed and more content will come out but the game killer for me is faction/class imbalance from the clear bias towards the imps from BW and illum is a joke!
I have unsubbed but i will also return in a few months to see where the game is at to see if things are better and im sure alot of other ppl will do the same simply because TOR has promise but if BW dosnt get thier sh*t together the game will be dead soon because of other games being released.....GW2(meh).....The Secret World(yes plz)....Planetside2.
PLEASE BIOWARE GET UR SH*T TOGETHER

Negative Ghostrider.

you've played for a whole week, that's why you have no idea, come back when you've played for 2 months, got 3 chars at 50, and have ran out of anything to do

I have been playing since EA and still have a blast, so everyone has their own opinion. Just because one persion if bored doesn't automatically mean all people will be bored. Not everyone fits into the same peg.

I'll tell you the EXACT reason why.

From my experience in lingering around MMOG forums since the dawn of MMOGs when they didn't even have the term "MMOG" yet, people who really think a game is bad, don't do all this whining and bitc*ing and moaning and tantrums.

People who really think a game is bad, simply leave.


Now then, who are all these people who come to the forums, all these doomsayers?

These twirps, are the people who actually like the game a lot. They play it a lot, so they somehow assume that it automatically means they are good players.....and since they are (in their own mind) good players, and devote so much time to it, they think they should always have good results in the game whatever they do - be it PvP or PvE.

When it turns out that they aren't much good at it, they start feeling betrayed, and start blaming it on the game, on the system, and on the developers.

I mean, since I'm such a faithful player, and I loved this game so much, surely, the game must treat me as a great customer, and let me get awesome wins in PvP, or give me awesome rewards when I PvE, right??

But unfortunately, that does not happen. So, they feel wronged, and they start making delusional statements on how they rightfully deserve something. Since they are good players and faithful players, nothing is wrong with them. It is always the system, the game, the developers who are wronging them.


Hence, they start doomsaying, making threats and accusations on how the game has wronged them.


In a sense, they are the pathetic people who's been turned down by a lover, and start posting hate-posts on the blogs. That's what the whiners and moaners are.

Not everyone thinks and acts the same bud. Others can absorb and deal with some basic mechanics that are common and simple others are looking for something more challenging and new.

This game as of the moment does not sport anything new or innovated. So the label bad is stamped on this by some veterans.

A lot of good and bad can be explained about this game but all that matters is you having fun and if you're having fun that's good and it's up to the devs to figure out how to make this game more fun for those that can't find it.

I can't support either those that love or hate this game everyone has a taste, personally if the devs don't show off something new and interesting for my taste this will be my 2nd short title wow holds the number 1 spot.

It's called a sense of entitlement and so far that has not really applied to the comments in this thread. Although it's more likely that you just don't recognize you're making a fundamental attribution error while generalizing the population simply because you don't think others opinions are as valid as your own and you need that rationalized. Perhaps you should try less attempts at stroking your intellectual epeen and congratulating yourself on your ability to complete sentences and join the conversation at some point.

Many who spend money on a product wish for that product to work appropriately and ergo despite their not wanting to play the current product still hope that Bioware can fix the game.

***Btw we all clearly see that when you say "faithful" it's code for "cannot intellectually entertain abstract concepts, notions, and dissenting views".

Then there are those people who whine about people whining on the forums to show how much more mature they are, to show how much a better person they are. They also want to prove to everyone that negative feedback, even though constructive and genuine, aimed towards the game they like is always 100% wrong.

Congratulations I did the same thing you did

What the hell are you talking about? The entire problem with endgame is that it's too easy. It showers you with epics/epic mods left and right before you even get into hard modes. The hard modes aren't much harder except for maybe Esseles, and those give you raid gear.

Raids can be completed in one night... on all three difficulties (barring any encounter breaking bugs).

The common theme of every PVE encounter is tank and spank, with a gear check hard enrage timer thrown in on way too many bosses because it's the only mechanic they seem to know.

PVP has no purpose... in a faction based game. Ilum is totally broken, and the devs have pretty much said they've given up on it.

Crafting is pointless.

Space combat has 4 or 5 unique mission types that are each repeated at least twice on different level missions, and everybody's ship gets the same tech. There should have been a miriad of tech devices to choose from so your dogfighting would change based on your ship's tech.

been playing for a few months now, haven't seen much of a need to post on the forums till now.

i've found a few bugs so far but nothing i would call game breaking, the worst of which is when a guild mate was stuck on dromund kaas after the final jedi knight quest for the master title but that was only a fleet pass fix and a bit of an oversight, not really game breaking if you know about it and lets face it 1k credits isn't much.

the most common bug i find is that some resource node are bugged out but hey, i log the location and resource type and send it in so they know where to look for the bug.

as for the repetitive "kill x number of mobs" quests, these are typically bonus quests that tie in with quest line your currently on or work their way into the quest story if you bother to not space bar everything.

end game is lacking atm but hey, i still have stories to complete before i whinge about that seeing as the game itself is only 4 months old, a bit of patience isn't much to ask. if your wondering i have my lvl 50 commando, currently i have gunslinger, guardian, Juggernaut, agent and bounty hunter in the works and there are still some other classes to play through yet.

the crafting system isn't bad for an out of the box system i've seen worse, go take a look at rappelz for a crap game. or 9dragons for a grind, or rift for a fail launch. the games TOR is being compared to mainly are WoW and galaxies, neither of which were perfect at launch either and both have had over 6 years of active subs before they realy hit their strides as far as their own innovations and gameplay.

PVP isn't bad in TOR but neither is it great, at this point in time its almost nothing more than a place filler for larger system of improvements we'll see in coming months and years. same for the crafting system.

there is always something to do with this game and with a bit patience we'll see this game evolve from pretty good to great if instead of constantly taking to the forums with a crusader like fervor to spew bile at the dev's and actually work as a community alongside them to make what issues we have known. i know some of you are going to sit there and take offense to that last statement but i couldn't give a rat's behind to your opinion.

at the end of the day, this game has its problems, but when you look around they're not that big, seriously look at BF3 and its problems, COD MW3 and its lack of stat tracking for PC players, rift's massive security issues on launch, warhammer online launching with tank classes for some races, wow's cataclysm expansion and its "pandaria" plans, diablo 3's ever growing delay listings, duke nukem's 11+ year dev cycle for a below average game, these are just from the last year and a half of gaming but when it comes to TOR its only a very vocal few players who take issue with TOR, the rest of us are busy playing to complain.

if you don't enjoy what you find in TOR you don't HAVE to play it, let your free month run out and move along, i'm getting what i pay for here which is a decent experience with bioware's decent way of telling a story and enough diversity to keep me busy when i log on.