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Why are so many people saying this game is bad?

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Why are so many people saying this game is bad?

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Ansultares
03.04.2012 , 03:48 PM | #411
Quote: Originally Posted by Esaru View Post
Just because I search for absolute truth doesn't mean I don't have beliefs that have some evidence congruent with the truth. They are beliefs that are the most favourable given the situation. You only quoted the FIRST sentence of my reply, and only bothered to hark on that point. Unless you make it clear (which you haven't) that you've actually read and replied to what I was saying, then I don't know what you're expecting.

Also, ad hominem! yay!
Quit feeding the trolls.

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BlackZoback
03.04.2012 , 03:49 PM | #412
Quote: Originally Posted by Cepheid View Post
Really happy you like to romanticize the ins and outs of marketing and business but that's not really how it works. Hardcore gamers keep up the sites that generate interest and bring more people to the game. Enjoy your SPRPG.
Me thinks you are romanticizing the effect the "hardcore" crowd has on a game. If it was any thing like your dreaming of PoP would have been a rousing success in EQ and Cataclysm would be hailed as a monumental success.

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Andryah
03.04.2012 , 03:50 PM | #413
Quote: Originally Posted by JediElf View Post
This game, is unique, it's a diamond in the rough, and a gem of cinema and storytelling in a sea of 'raid lotz gets purplz, raid more' style MMO grind fests.For once the story of the game is front and center stage.

For once in a long time I really care about my character, I care about the choices he makes, and I ponder over how his actions will affect those around him. I'm actually involved in what my character does.

It's a great feeling, and one I haven't had in a MMO, for a long time.

This game is new, it's in a baby stage with plenty of time to grow, and improve.

However...

I'd like to see that improvement stay the course of putting the story first, of putting the player immersive experience first, and making this game an interactive cinematic master piece. it dose not need all the same element, or make any of the same mistakes, that MMOs have done for years.

We live in an age where MMOs are all around us, and they all cater to different kinds of players. For every 'old guard' hardcore that losses interest, new players will emerge who love Star Wars, and love how Bioware weaves it's storytelling into every aspect of this game.

Not all MMOs are for all folks, and they don't have to be, this game is fun as it is. ^_^
I agree.
When you find yourself surrounded by hostile Clowns... always go for the "Juggler" first.

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SBite
03.04.2012 , 03:55 PM | #414
Quote: Originally Posted by BlackZoback View Post
The ability to whisper someone is a basic feature in a MMO, the ease of which to do so is not.

I do agree you should be able to, but its more of a QoL issue then a "feature", so try again.
You may want you to define what's basic and what's not but sadly it isn't so. Useful array of guild and social features (including the missing guild bank and chat bubbles) are long(as of years long) considered more then basic.

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Ansultares
03.04.2012 , 04:01 PM | #415
Quote: Originally Posted by Blackardin View Post
Red herring? Straw man? Not sure which, but are we to assume that a statement made by random guy A on the internet holds more merrit then every major gaming outlet in the world? ;p
Every major gaming outlet is waiting for the next exclusive closed beta or pimp swag bag. They never seem to do their due diligence.

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BlackZoback
03.04.2012 , 04:06 PM | #416
Quote: Originally Posted by SBite View Post
You may want you to define what's basic and what's not but sadly it isn't so. Useful array of guild features (including the missing guild bank) are long(as of years long) considered more then basic.
Trying to think of a game that has had a plethora of guild based features at inception that this game is lacking, like Gbanks, but i'm drawing a very large blank.

For reference I have played in no particular order, and I'm sure I'm forgetting some:

Ultima Online
EQ
Asheron's Call
Dark age of Camelot
World of Warcraft
City of Heroes
Age of Conan
Warhammer
Aion
Rift
EvE
And this game

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Andryah
03.04.2012 , 04:11 PM | #417
Quote: Originally Posted by BlackZoback View Post
Trying to think of a game that has had a plethora of guild based features at inception that this game is lacking, like Gbanks, but i'm drawing a very large blank.

For reference I have played in no particular order, and I'm sure I'm forgetting some:

Ultima Online
EQ
Asheron's Call
Dark age of Camelot
World of Warcraft
City of Heroes
Age of Conan
Warhammer
Aion
Rift
EvE
And this game
True.... even the great and holy RIFT was lacking here. Yet RIFT gets a pass on this and SWTOR gets an ugly red stepchild style beating over it.
When you find yourself surrounded by hostile Clowns... always go for the "Juggler" first.

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Touchbass
03.04.2012 , 04:15 PM | #418
Quote: Originally Posted by BlackZoback View Post
Trying to think of a game that has had a plethora of guild based features at inception that this game is lacking, like Gbanks, but i'm drawing a very large blank.

For reference I have played in no particular order, and I'm sure I'm forgetting some:

Ultima Online
EQ
Asheron's Call
Dark age of Camelot
World of Warcraft
City of Heroes
Age of Conan
Warhammer
Aion
Rift
EvE
And this game
Even though I disagree with you very strongly in another thread I think you are completely correct here. Anyone expecting expanded guild features in the inception of a MMORPG is out to lunch. Those are fluff features can come with time.
Our lack of a proper LFD tool will black out the sun!
Then we shall cancel our subs in the shade!

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LogicalPremise
03.04.2012 , 04:15 PM | #419
Quote: Originally Posted by KingFastrod View Post
I am curious to know why all the hate for this game in this forum? I been playing for about a week now, and this is the most fun I have had with an mmo since I quit playing WoW.
Two reasons:

1) People have differing tastes and think somehow their tastes define good or bad.
2) People who are disappointed with the game want others to agree with them. Reverse fanboyism, basically. Call them hateboys.

There are people complaining about a specific issue -- that's okay. People complaining about everything, that the game will fail, blah blah blah, are hateboys. They're just complaining to complain. If they can't back up their talk with logic then it's just trolling.

"I think the End-Game is bad because of reasons 1, 2, and 3" is a valid issue.
"The game is dying and sucks, just a WoW clone" is not.

I am by far no supporter of Bioware, but every single argument that begins with living, breathing world I dismiss utterly. Not only was it never promised, but no one can show me or explain to me how such a thing matters in the slightest. Mobs moving around is just AI. It means nothing and it does nothing.

Most people that do complain about specific issues don't hate the game. We disagree strongly with some of the decisions that have been made. The biggest issue with beta is not really that bugs were ignored, per se, but that issues and decisions were made and feedback on them was ignored. I think (and I could be wrong, but someone has to say why) that criticism on decisions that are flat out bad is needed.
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Touchbass
03.04.2012 , 04:24 PM | #420
Quote: Originally Posted by LogicalPremise View Post
Two reasons:

Most people that do complain about specific issues don't hate the game. We disagree strongly with some of the decisions that have been made. The biggest issue with beta is not really that bugs were ignored, per se, but that issues and decisions were made and feedback on them was ignored. I think (and I could be wrong, but someone has to say why) that criticism on decisions that are flat out bad is needed.
Yeah, the game has so much potential but it has some issues that need to be addressed. Not including a LFD tool like WoW is fine, I understood the game wasn't going to launch with one and wasn't jiving with there philosophy of communities. That being said I expected them to put something that worked, instead we have this archaic piece of crap that just frustrates me to no end that i cannot group outside of my guild in a mmorpg in a timely manner. Second one is my own opinion that the quests in this game are too linear and not bountiful enough to divide up like in WoW.
Our lack of a proper LFD tool will black out the sun!
Then we shall cancel our subs in the shade!