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Why are so many people saying this game is bad?

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Why are so many people saying this game is bad?

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Blackardin
03.04.2012 , 01:06 PM | #341
Quote: Originally Posted by artilleryshell View Post
because while many things about the game are good, three weeks into this experiment, several game breaking bugs have not been addressed.
The biggest bug in this game is the misinformation and conjecture put out on these boards. My entire guild is at 50 now. Either we are all lucky beyond belief, or there is no game breaking bug that prevents anything.

The truth, OP, is that it has far less bugs then any release of a major game thus far. It is quite playable, it is fun, and the only time you will feel like you are not having fun is when you read the horse hockey put forth on this boardl. ;p

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Blackardin
03.04.2012 , 01:09 PM | #342
Quote: Originally Posted by Darth_Urtani View Post
Because the bad outweighs the good in this game.
Qualify that statment with some reletive information.

As has been seen so many times before, I'm going to guess that it will boil down to a few basice issues ranging from personal dislike, lack of understanding of what a MMORPG is and how they evolve, pure conjecture.

There is no way, and I mean no way in hell that the above statement is even remotely close to truth.

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Kourage
03.04.2012 , 01:16 PM | #343
Why are so many people saying this game is good?

http://www.swtor.com/awards
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SirRobin
03.04.2012 , 01:18 PM | #344
Quote: Originally Posted by Kourage View Post
Why are so many people saying this game is good?

http://www.swtor.com/awards
Why did so many people say these games were good?

http://warhammeronline.com/awards/index.php
http://www.riftgame.com/en/community/awards.php

Sorry Kourage, you just make it so easy sometimes.

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Blackardin
03.04.2012 , 01:22 PM | #345
Quote: Originally Posted by Esaru View Post
There's tons of basics features that are missing that have been repeated on this forum over and over again (not to mention the fact that they're glaringly obvious), if you don't even have a clue as to what they are by now you're being willfully ignorant and have zero experience with other MMO's.
Here is a classic example.

This is not an MMO. It is a MMORPG, vastly different then an MMO such as "Call of duty" only existing under the same catagory of MMO. There seems to be a noticable lack of understanding of the reality that MMORPGs always ship with the basic features, then add content and features as they grow and develope.

MMORPGs are, in the words of a recent Dev post, "a living, breathing world" that is constantly evolving and developing. If one were to read any of the developer's blogs, tweets, posts on this very board, they would see the plethora of changes and features all slated for instalment in the game, including action bars, a fully customizeble UI, guild banks, crafting changes (including end game crafting) etc. etc.

This game has had an outstanding launch, and they are already working on adding content and features. They've listened and are responding. The game has been fun to date, and shows great promise.

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krinaman
03.04.2012 , 01:23 PM | #346
Quote: Originally Posted by KingFastrod View Post
I am curious to know why all the hate for this game in this forum? I been playing for about a week now, and this is the most fun I have had with an mmo since I quit playing WoW.
Because a bunch of players burnt out on MMOs keep buying the latest MMO to hit the market. They do so expecting it to return them to a time when they weren't burnt out on MMOs. Unfortunately fot them it doesn't take long before boredom sets in again. Sadly, rather than just excepting they are burnt out on MMO's they rage against game for not doing the impossible of returning them to a time when then never played a MMO before.


But don't worry Tera is about to release and they will all go there expecting a miracle only to rage against it a couple weeks later....

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stineo
03.04.2012 , 01:24 PM | #347
Quote: Originally Posted by CovenantOfDeath View Post
The quiz is: I've been playing for a week

From level 30 you'll begin to see the bugs.
I am level 50 and what game breaking bugs are you talking about again? And I don't mean little bugs.

What is annoying are these vague troll bait threads.

Do I see bugs in the game? Yes I do but I have NEVER played any MMO that was ever bug free. It's part of computer gaming. Espesically in MMOs when new patches can and sometimes do bring in unforeseen bugs.

I rarely ever post on these type of threads as it's usually filled with troll bait and it's always a waste of time.

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kaboro
03.04.2012 , 01:25 PM | #348
Quote: Originally Posted by Kourage View Post
Why are so many people saying this game is good?

http://www.swtor.com/awards
The awards have a lot to do with the publisher being EA.
AoC was hyped and acclaimed by the media, but that didnt help for long because a mediocre mmo cannot survive for long no matter the hype.
Same for Rift.

My guess is that in a few months SWTOR will start adopting the same emergency survival strategy as Rift, namely selling the client for $5 on Steam in an attempt to get subs for a few more months.

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killmaimburn
03.04.2012 , 01:27 PM | #349
People didn't move on. Everytime they release new content everyone is going to resub to play it, and then probably take a hiatus again. That's a large portion of what the people in other MMO's do.

The only significant bugs that exist at this time are in raids. 3 months and we're still fighting bugs in raids as they are more challenging than the bosses. The first time I went into EV and hit the platform bugs, I thought it was part of the game. Like a penalty for not doing it correct the first time, apparently not. Now, some of those bugs have been fixed. My guild's main ops group can burn EV normal in 30-45 minutes. Bring in new guys and it takes 4 hours, why? Because the pylons in last stage of SOA are graphically bugged and appearing on opposite side of screen from where they are making the tanks drop them thinking that they positioned SOA in the correct spot only to find out pylon dropped on opposite side. Experienced players set their graphics settings appropriately, new guys didn't know what to expect and could not anticipate this.

The more intricate a fight is, the more bugs appear.

Consistently running into a bug where can't use battle field rez on a character even though the cool down has been reset and it should be able to be used. This makes a fight unforgiving. On HM's now if a dps dies before 1/4 health on bosses like Bonethrasher, Karagga, SOA, we restart because each time we try a rez and it doesn't work.

16 man Karagga is harder than 8 man HM Karagga. Well you might say, well duh it's for 16 people. If it's THAT difficult it should reward loot similar to the difficulty level.

Rakata tank sets do not have correct tanking stats, have to strip mods from Columi gear.

Ilum is completely worthless. My server now sets up 2 farming ops group from both factions so we can complete that boring *** nascar game without taking all day doing it.

Why does speeder lvl 3 cost 300k but only give a 10% increase to speed? For 300k I can pick up rakata pieces from GTN.

Republic storyline is touchy feely and boring. Factions are consistently unbalanced. No one wants to a be a goody tooshu jedi.

Lack of new content, or lack of end game content discourages people from playing longer leading to down size in server populations. GTN has hardly any items on as a result. BIOCHEM is still only useful tradeskill resulting in implants being cheap, stims being cheap, but armor, weapons, EVERYTHING else being ridiculously over priced. Especially considering that it only takes 2 weeks to hit 50, another week or less to get full Columi.

GREEN MATRIX SHARDS. Rakata Energy Cubes so rare that I don't know of any marauders that actually wasted enough time looking for them to get the matrix cube.

Kaon Under Siege hard mode: Bonus Droid Boss. Takes alot of finesse to down him, especially with a pug group. Loot is crap.

All that said. I will continue to play this game. BF3 now requires an expansion to find multi player last time I tried and now apparently Origin doesn't recognize the fact that I have a registered version of the game. WOW is for 4 year olds. The atmosphere of that game is for little kids, deals with morally questionable things in game in toddler choices. At least SWTOR has a mature feeling to it. If murdering people for their insolence isn't for a mature audience, then I don't know what is.

And a response to something I read on here where SWTOR is a quest hub, period. GOOD. Wandering the world for hours looking for others sucks. If you want that huge expansive world, go play something else. I like the instances and the quest hub. Makes more sense than having 18 different world cities.

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Lord_Boaz
03.04.2012 , 01:30 PM | #350
I JUST WISH WE COULD DUAL SPEC. I love my character and don't want to level up another just so I can dps, tank and/or heal. BioWare, please grant duals specs.
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