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Why are so many people saying this game is bad?

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Why are so many people saying this game is bad?

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Iusedtoplaywow
01.10.2012 , 06:25 AM | #221
Quote: Originally Posted by Karai View Post
Game was never intended to be second life for basement dwellers, you are dying breed anyway, nobody is going to waste time making game for elitists after WoW proved that it's better to just go with the mainstream crowd.
Yes, small lags between abilities that makes combat feel unresponsive are extremely annoying and needs to be fixed, eventually. But if you are a 14 days/hour sitting in front of PC type, just quit TOR now before you start hating it.
Nobody would play WoW if the hardcores werent running around in their epic raid loot and titles making everyone drool.

FACT.

The small portion of hardcore gamers provides a VALUABLE resource to game developers. You see, while we play and tear up content, you little peons drool over our gear and accomplishments and that drives you to continue playing and pay for the game, thus creating a large revenue stream for the company so that they can continue to churn out free patches full of casual content for you nooblets. The hardcores act as a carrot dangling for all the noobs...the whole 'that could be YOUR character one day' mentality.

Noobs are so cute.

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a_Stalker
01.10.2012 , 06:26 AM | #222
Quote: Originally Posted by CovenantOfDeath View Post
The quiz is: I've been playing for a week

From level 30 you'll begin to see the bugs.
From level 2 you will beging to realize the planet looks kind of strange. Then as you are questing you will realize that you cannot really explore, the planet is not truly 3D. Everyone around you runs on those marked paths. Then you also realise that you cannot level at another place , this is it.

Then, at level 10 you will hit Coruscant and you be blown away by the sheer size. Soon after you discover that it all is really backdrops, you cannot go to any of the buildings you see around you and it all is a series of long corridors.

After 6 laborious levels of running inside the same corridors, again following marked paths with no degree of exploration you then get your spaceship at level 16. By now you have realised that you are following your class quests and you have no choice on the matter.

At 16 you visit another planet Taris, which is another disappointment just like Tythos. Marked paths have to be followed in order to go from A to B. It is like a giant supermarket full of aisles and high stacked shelves so you cannot see or go to the other side unless you do the full loop.

At this point you realise that you still have not seen an open, fully three dimensional world.

4 very laborious levels later, at 20, you go to Nar Shaddaa. Simply a copy of Coruscant. If you thought Coruscant was despicable well, good luck to you trying to grind through Nar Shaddaa.

At 24 you realise that the chances of actually an open, explorable, three dimensional world with multiple zones, big cities etc, are nil.

Coupled with the rest of the horrible issues, AH, combat, lack of LFG, etc you quit.

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Karai
01.10.2012 , 06:44 AM | #223
Quote: Originally Posted by Iusedtoplaywow View Post
Nobody would play WoW if the hardcores werent running around in their epic raid loot and titles making everyone drool.

FACT.

The small portion of hardcore gamers provides a VALUABLE resource to game developers. You see, while we play and tear up content, you little peons drool over our gear and accomplishments and that drives you to continue playing and pay for the game, thus creating a large revenue stream for the company so that they can continue to churn out free patches full of casual content for you nooblets. The hardcores act as a carrot dangling for all the noobs...the whole 'that could be YOUR character one day' mentality.

Noobs are so cute.
Well, its good you can justify your existence and back in the days of Burning Crusade it still might have worked like this. As former hard core raider I realized that all Im getting from the game is feeling of being "burned out" and epics started feeling less and less rewarding, but you are obviously much better in deluding yourself than I was so I guess you have a few more years ahead of you. Now you nolifers are good for testing new content pre launch I give you that, but really not a single person from my days in WoW actually stayed in game becouse droling over some purple flexing in front of AH. Yes they all went casual more or less, but stayed in the game becouse it was a good way to let off steam after school or work and becousethey had social ties in the game.

Epic used to be motivation before Blizz started giving it out for free, but hey don't let me rob of your little bubble where hard core raiders are still important and admired

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Neumi
01.10.2012 , 06:52 AM | #224
Well, I like the game, even with the flaws it has.
But I am not blind for them.

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Iusedtoplaywow
01.10.2012 , 06:57 AM | #225
Quote: Originally Posted by Karai View Post
Well, its good you can justify your existence and back in the days of Burning Crusade it still might have worked like this. As former hard core raider I realized that all Im getting from the game is feeling of being "burned out" and epics started feeling less and less rewarding, but you are obviously much better in deluding yourself than I was so I guess you have a few more years ahead of you. Now you nolifers are good for testing new content pre launch I give you that, but really not a single person from my days in WoW actually stayed in game becouse droling over some purple flexing in front of AH. Yes they all went casual more or less, but stayed in the game becouse it was a good way to let off steam after school or work and becousethey had social ties in the game.

Epic used to be motivation before Blizz started giving it out for free, but hey don't let me rob of your little bubble where hard core raiders are still important and admired
Okay. So, obvious social regrets aside, you seem to 100% agree with me.

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Kolun
01.10.2012 , 07:26 AM | #226
Game is bad because it's Massive Multiplayer Online game without serious endgame PVE content, and without endgame PvP, where you can't play warzones even with friends because it's annoying to reinvite ppl every 10 minutes.

If you want to make serious MMO, you have to make a lot more components. Otherwise don't call it MMO.

All you have to do after 50 is farm 3 pathetic warzones and send companions on missions for unknown reason.
You can tell: "there is raids, heroics and you send companions to get money", but BM gear better than any other and money... what they for?

In one month you can get full battlemaster set and cancel account what I will do when my 1st month ends.

If you spend 10000 work-hours for storyline content, why I cant's move my party frames, why there is no search window in auction, why why why and thousands more why.

If you wish to be concurent of other MMOs you should give content now, because I pay for game now! I don't want to know what might be or not be in future, I pay now!

It's doesn't metter how other games was when they came out, many years passed and game industry changed. If you want your project stay alive you can't sell only promises.

I want to remind what happened with Age of Conan or Warhammer Online.
Both of them had good graphics, single and a few good ideas, but they did not answer on "I'm 50, what I do now" at start, ppl's population dropped and never got back even after "reload". Then merging servers and free to play model. That's future I see now, otherwise tell me what I pay for at this moment.

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Klaxy
01.10.2012 , 07:30 AM | #227
Quote: Originally Posted by KingFastrod View Post
I am curious to know why all the hate for this game in this forum? I been playing for about a week now, and this is the most fun I have had with an mmo since I quit playing WoW.
Im gonna go ahead and say they didn't enjoy the game and thought it was bad. Its a pretty easy answer in the end if you think about it.

Remember, people have different opinions than you and you may not always agree, but its okay.

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Enako
01.10.2012 , 07:34 AM | #228
Quote: Originally Posted by KingFastrod View Post
I am curious to know why all the hate for this game in this forum? I been playing for about a week now, and this is the most fun I have had with an mmo since I quit playing WoW.
there are many people who have grown up, and came to identify themselves with wow and all it entails. or everquest, or any of their clones.

even for a lot of adults, they have come to identify themselves with these games and what they bring because they have found a community to themselves in these games - their guilds etc.

so, they have come to identify these games and all their peripherals with themselves.

wow has been on the decline for a while. you could see this in the forums until they started heavily moderating it. even after tighter moderation, you can see 'constructive' threads in their forum talking about what should be done with empty servers etc.

and then a new game comes up, everyone likes it, it becomes game of the year, it is fun, it is the fastest growing game, and a lot of people are canceling their subscriptions in those games for this one.

imagine yourself seeing the guild you identified with continually going down in numbers, people leaving for this game.

imagine your server becoming increasingly empty, and there is talk of tor in /1 or /2 in cities.

...................

these people perceive this as an attack to their own self, because of identifying with these games, and their communities. the game, in their perception, is harming it. so then they come to these forums and attack what they see as the aggressor. and also, if they are actually playing the game while doing that, they are despising everything in the game by not liking the good parts and exaggerating the 'bad' parts (in their perception), they are externalizing and villifying the aggressor further in their mind.


so it is a simple matter of identifying the ego with the game/community.

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Kurnea
01.10.2012 , 07:37 AM | #229
Quote: Originally Posted by Iusedtoplaywow View Post
Nobody would play WoW if the hardcores werent running around in their epic raid loot and titles making everyone drool.

FACT.
I was about to say that's actually an opinion, but then you put the word 'fact' by itself in a single sentence. All in upper case letters. And, well, that' just make it absolutely true, now doesn't it?

Now here I am a long-term WoW player that's raided plenty of times without knowing what bosses dropped what and only giving a partial glance at mmo champion when I wanted to know what the new armor sets look like. I was pretty sure that for most of my time playing WoW, I didn't really care about what the hardcores were wearing.

But again, listing 'fact' as it's own sentence, in caps, proves your point.
Quote: Originally Posted by Iusedtoplaywow View Post
The small portion of hardcore gamers provides a VALUABLE resource to game developers. You see, while we play and tear up content, you little peons drool over our gear and accomplishments and that drives you to continue playing and pay for the game, thus creating a large revenue stream for the company so that they can continue to churn out free patches full of casual content for you nooblets. The hardcores act as a carrot dangling for all the noobs...the whole 'that could be YOUR character one day' mentality.

Noobs are so cute.
So you're saying that hardcores are a critical component of the skinner box mechanism? Fascinating analysis. So it's like if someone's about to try out gambling, and sees someone completely addicted to slot machines, and figures out "Hey, I wanna be that guy!"

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brokeit
01.10.2012 , 07:38 AM | #230
I have seen some bugs. Some have even been annoying. Despite all this I am having some of the most fun I've ever had playing an MMO and plan to keep playing. I love the mechanics, the stories, the resource systems (BH ftw), the worlds, the people (so far in an awesome guild), etc.

To answer the question, the people who say it's bad are generally impatient, uptight, and bad themselves. That or they left wow to play some more wow with lightsabers and found out this isn't it so try and get everyone to think the game is terrible because they have issues with it.