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Please allow dual spec or cap respec costs.

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Please allow dual spec or cap respec costs.

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kalexkhan
01.05.2012 , 01:52 PM | #331
Quote: Originally Posted by zootzoot View Post
How about those of us at 50 who Raid and PVP? Who cares about leveling? It takes 5 days of playing tops to ding 50. If this game has longevity then that's a drop in the bucket as far as playtime.

I want a PVE spec and a PVP spec. I want stored Keybinds and Hotbars per spec. Why? I'd prefer to log on and play then to have to run back to the Fleet, respec then noodle with Hot Bar layouts. As I've said many times it's QoL only. It won't impact anyone's play who doesn't want to use the option.
Well, which one is your favorite?

If it only takes five days then u can make another dude to do the one you like least.

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salamanderx
01.05.2012 , 01:53 PM | #332
Quote: Originally Posted by Saber_Six View Post
The point your making (as well as others) is that if you allow something in a limited fashion then you must then allow it in an unlimited fashion. It's an inane argument.
Agreed.

Even though there is no winning an argument on the internet, since its well known people will stick to their opinions though hell or high water, its still interesting the contortions people go through to support their opinions. Makes it semi worthwhile.
MAY THE FARCE BE WITH YOU

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Kemosobe
01.05.2012 , 01:54 PM | #333
Quote: Originally Posted by Sparckus View Post
Stop. Assuming. That. Everyone. Only. Plays. PvE.
Then stop asking for a dual spec. Ask for a PvP spec. If all you really wanted was an extra spec that was PvP that was ONLY accessable inside a Warzone, I would be up for that. But even that is not needed seeing as you can PvP in your PvE spec.
Quote: Originally Posted by GalacticKegger View Post
Curious how many would stand in the street staring down an oncoming garbage truck because they don't have DBM telling them to get out of the way.
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Yeah I feel sorry for the devs. The new breed of gamers are so %$$#&^%

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Spynnal
01.05.2012 , 01:54 PM | #334
Quote: Originally Posted by salamanderx View Post
Dual spec would need A LOT of justification to be accepted by people, outside of the wow crowd that are calling for it primarily.
More baseless claims.

Some who are asking for it are small groups of friends, trying out this game, primarily solo, but, are interested in trying some flashpoints together.

Not going to drop people for a healer, because we're friends. Not really worth staying heal spec, cause we maybe get together for a flashpoint once a week on weekends.

So we jump through hoops, visit the trainer, change specs, and lose credits. So be it.

But please, quit trying to sum up those who disagree with you. It isn't one tiny camp of WoW players. Sorry.

Some casual groups of friends, who don't group often, but think it's fun now and again would also be happier by having this.

Huge deal? No. I can re-spec 3x a day currently and still have money left over. But, as with all things, convenience is nice when you can get it.

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Ketinvik
01.05.2012 , 01:55 PM | #335
IMO, the people falling into the NO camp likely fall into one of three groups:

1. People whose class and spec are currently on the high end of the power bell curve and want to remain there.
2. People who have the time to play several hours every day and think that restricting MMOs to people like them would be a good idea without contemplating the consequences.
3. Trolls.

Regardless of anything that the game has in its favor, if you make a system that feels like a second job then people will leave. That will mean less revenue which will mean fewer developers with will mean less new content which will mean more people leave and so on ad infinitum.

I played one class to 27 and decided that I wasn't having fun doing that. I've leveled a second to the upper 30s without respeccing but I've been considering it. If I were told that I had to level yet another character I would just leave. I pay to play, I get paid to work.

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Sendrel
01.05.2012 , 01:56 PM | #336
Quote: Originally Posted by Saber_Six View Post
The point your making (as well as others) is that if you allow something in a limited fashion then you must then allow it in an unlimited fashion. It's an inane argument.
I'm arguing that because the game has multiple facets people should be able to respec at will - or Dual Spec. I'm arguing that there should be no limits because there's no good reason to restrict it. I'm also arguing that the current system is tedious in that you have to run back to the fleet and redo your bars everytime you take the notion to respec. In addition to that, I'm arguing that dual spec provides some much needed variation in gameplay from one play session to the next and that variance helps to retain subs.

But don't let all that stop you from reframing the argument.

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zootzoot
01.05.2012 , 01:57 PM | #337
Quote: Originally Posted by kalexkhan View Post
Well, which one is your favorite?

If it only takes five days then u can make another dude to do the one you like least.
LOL. How about some of us like our toons and are attached to them?

How is it so hard to understand that we're already Dual speccing? We go to the Fleet and respec when we want. It's in the game already. Having an option that stores the spec and stores Hot Key and Keybinds just removes the tedium involved.

Unless they remove respeccing then any argument against is foolish.

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Sparckus
01.05.2012 , 01:58 PM | #338
Quote: Originally Posted by Kemosobe View Post
Then stop asking for a dual spec. Ask for a PvP spec. If all you really wanted was a spec that was PvP that was ONLY accessable inside a Warzone,
Personally I would be happy with that

Quote: Originally Posted by Kemosobe View Post
But even that is not needed seeing as you can PvP in your PvE spec.
You seriously think that PvE specs work in PvP? Try using threat generating skills on Real players and see how those work...




I'll ask again how many here that are against dual spec play regular PvP?

I'd like all the regular posters to answer that one question.

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salamanderx
01.05.2012 , 01:59 PM | #339
Quote: Originally Posted by Spynnal View Post

But please, quit trying to sum up those who disagree with you. It isn't one tiny camp of WoW players. Sorry.
Didnt mean to offend with that, wow is the only game I know that has/had dual spec implemented at present and what many have pointed to as their inspiration for suggesting it in prior threads.

it helps to understand why people are demanding this otherwise unprecented request too for the rest of us.
MAY THE FARCE BE WITH YOU

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Pokeytehpenguin
01.05.2012 , 02:01 PM | #340
Quote: Originally Posted by Shivus View Post
I would greatly appreciate the ability to switch between my standard shieldtech PVE tank build and a PVP build when I wish to participate in warzones.
Seriously, how do these threads always forget about the people who want to PVP and PVE? This was the whole reason dual spec was introduced in the first place. It is just silly to ask me to resepc every time I want to do a warzone or dungeon.