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The Unofficial Appearance Customization Thread

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The Unofficial Appearance Customization Thread

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magnuskn
12.13.2011 , 07:41 AM | #1
This is the 26th iteration of the Unofficial Appearance Customization thread, 25.000+ posts preceded this discussion on the old forums.


Appearance customization has been a major concern of players during the wait for SWTOR's release. Given that The Old Republic's fourth pillar is story and the MMORPG of the game was emphasized, many players wanted more options to customize the appearance of their characters, so as to heighten the immersion into the game.

Appearance customization at character creation is a bit limited compared to many other MMO's. Post-character creation, no system has so far been introduced to change the appearance of your character, although many hope that the legacy system will provide solutions on that topic.

The majority of discussion in past versions of this thread, though, has been about gear appearance customization. During many of its iterations, the preferred solution was an appearance tab. The appearance tab is a system which allows players to equip a second item on the character doll for gear appearance, while retaining the statistics of their primary item.

BioWare chose to go with another system
. Their implemented method of gear appearance customization is "orange" gear. This means these sets of equipment have no base statistics, just modding slots. Mods can be acquired via questing, vendors and group content, throughout all of the game.
When those mods are slotted into the empty mod slots, the orange quality equipment will be granted combined statistic equivalent to normal, unmodded gear at the same item level, including armor rating.

The ( for the moment ) final system was presented by a developer post from Emanuel Lusinchi and its reception was decidedly mixed. The major concerns from gear appearance customization proponents are the difficulty of maintaining up-to-date gear, the comparison to endgame gear with set bonuses and the viability of the orange quality mod equipment in PvP.

It is up to us to see how the system holds up in actual gameplay and bring concerns and constructive feedback to the developers.


In closing, some arguments why gear appearance customization is good for the game.

Good reasons players would want gear appearance customization:

- Avoiding the clone effect at endgame.

- Putting together your own unique look for your character.

- Roleplaying outfits: Festivities, enviromental adaptation ( flimsy uniforms on Hoth just don't cut it ), relaxation time clothes.

- Using all possible outfits for a long time, and as such honoring all the designers work, not just the endgame gear.

- Enhanced immersion into the Star Wars universe.

Good reasons why developers would want gear appearance customization:

- Timesinks: Collecting that one piece of gear for the perfect looking outfit gets players to do content they otherwise wouldn't.

- Player retention: Appearance customization creates attachment and immersion. And thus loyalty to ones character and the community. People stay subbed for this reason.

- Added comfort: Modern MMO's try to give their costumers options. More options make players more satisfied and thus help with costumer retention.

- Less need to top the latest endgame set with a more outrageous looking one for the next tier of endgame content.
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Vodalus
12.13.2011 , 09:45 AM | #2
/support!

Time to make this real. Let's keep each other updated on our experiences with the new RNG customization.

I have access, but won't be able to log in for another hour or two. I'll check in with what I find with the character creator after that. Orange pattern customization will obviously take longer to fairly report on.

*edit 1:

-Character creator is essentially the same as beta. There appears to be a few changes of specific options, but I can't provide exact comparisons at this point. (Particularly since I made a Chiss IA, and Chiss has always been overly limited in options.)

-Commendation chest pieces on Hutta (likely all starter planets) are blue, non-modable. Unlikely that this model is re-used as a green item, being commendation gear. Thus, if only green item models are used as base for orange RNG schematics, these models would not be available as modable items.
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magnuskn
12.13.2011 , 05:00 PM | #3
We'll try out hardest to get a good system into the game.
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Vodalus
12.13.2011 , 08:31 PM | #4
An interesting idea: what if a bunch of us regulars got together in-game, even with alts, for a guild dedicated to appearance customization. We could organize and focus our crafting as a group to increase our odds with the RNG orange schematic game. (Maybe call the guild "Keeping Up Appearances" )
I'm not a hater, I'm a disillusioned and disappointed fan.
"I spent a good 5 or 10 minutes searching around the preferences because I was sure a feature like this would not have been omitted."- A simple quote that I have seen countless times; This is what is wrong with TOR in my book.

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Kill_Kayt
12.13.2011 , 08:34 PM | #5
Lacking compared to other games? SWTOR has 90x the character customization of WoW. Mainly cause WoW has NONE.

BUT I am always all for more.
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Vodalus
12.13.2011 , 08:37 PM | #6
Quote: Originally Posted by Kill_Kayt View Post
Lacking compared to other games? SWTOR has 90x the character customization of WoW. Mainly cause WoW has NONE.

BUT I am always all for more.
Oh, it is better than WoW, there is no question about that. But, a "D" grade is better than an "F", too. That doesn't mean it's good enough.
I'm not a hater, I'm a disillusioned and disappointed fan.
"I spent a good 5 or 10 minutes searching around the preferences because I was sure a feature like this would not have been omitted."- A simple quote that I have seen countless times; This is what is wrong with TOR in my book.

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magnuskn
12.14.2011 , 01:19 AM | #7
Quote: Originally Posted by Kill_Kayt View Post
Lacking compared to other games? SWTOR has 90x the character customization of WoW. Mainly cause WoW has NONE.

BUT I am always all for more.
As I said in the OP, character appearance customization was not the major concern of the thread in the past. In fact, prior to BioWare renaming it, this was the "Unofficial Appearance Tab Discussion Thread".

And in that field, WoW actually got better and with more ease of use than BioWare with their 4.3 patch, see Transmogrification.
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Ethern
12.15.2011 , 10:17 AM | #8
http://www.swtor.com/community/showt...151#post285151
Check this thread please.
It reveals how the appearance tab is mandatory and of imperious necessity.

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Vodalus
12.15.2011 , 07:15 PM | #9
Quote: Originally Posted by Ethern View Post
http://www.swtor.com/community/showt...151#post285151
Check this thread please.
It reveals how the appearance tab is mandatory and of imperious necessity.
Yup, those are hideous. But then, pretty much all of the endgame gear is hideous. People keep claiming that there is no proof of set bonuses, which would make moded orange gear inferior, but if you look at the names in the tooltips, you'll see the "unassembled" label at the beginning of the name. Based on the naming conventions in the game, I'd be willing to bet that this signifies a set-piece, which has set bonuses, but is not being worn as a set.

Thus, there is BIS, and fully-modable gear is not BIS. Endgame The endgame clone army is inevitable, particularly since the AC armor is a super-simple palate swap, basically only varying in the secondary/highlight color.

Oh, and my IA is up to level 14. I've acquired 1 orange chest piece (Black Talon drop) and no orange schematics from UT yet (5 missions run). Can't even buy the social gear chest piece from DK since it's male only and my IA is female (on the Rep side, the Croissaant social gear is female only.

I have acquired 2 orange weapons, though they are so close to identical looking that I had to swap them back and forth a few times to see the difference (minor difference in the scope).
I'm not a hater, I'm a disillusioned and disappointed fan.
"I spent a good 5 or 10 minutes searching around the preferences because I was sure a feature like this would not have been omitted."- A simple quote that I have seen countless times; This is what is wrong with TOR in my book.

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SWTOR-GR
12.15.2011 , 07:25 PM | #10
i have deleted one character and make inactive an other today because ( and i don't know why ! ) ....

they changed the character customization from beta weekends.

1. they did the male spandex looks like a macho man ingame ! sorry guys but i personal didn't enjoyed at all . i felt that i had a sexual attack every time my character come in to the scene to make an interaction in quests

2. they added more Caucasians characters and i couldn't find the way to make a normal good looking guy or female character .

the male head had at least 4 or 5 ugly faces and the female character where all with crayons and make up ....

very annoying change and i really didn't find a good reason for all these changes !

ofc i subscribe for a plurality in customization or at least to give us the opportunity to change them ingame until they found a way to make all in the right way
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