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I appreciate that there aren't macro's and add-ons. Thanks BW!

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I appreciate that there aren't macro's and add-ons. Thanks BW!

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TUXs
01.04.2012 , 01:55 PM | #11
Yes it does! The title is how I feel exactly!
All warfare is based on deception If his forces are united, separate them If you are far from the enemy, make him believe you are near A leader leads by example not by force
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Voidence
01.04.2012 , 01:56 PM | #12
Quote: Originally Posted by Kantoro View Post
Funny, no one forces you to use macros and addons.

Perhaps you should enjoy playing the way you like to play, and have the respect for others to allow them to do the same.

Stop worrying about how other people play.
Funny thing is, People will then demand you have all the add-ons to do Flashpoints and Operations with them. So how is that not forcing people who dont want to HAVE to use them any better?

Truth is i'm sure there will be add-ons and such at some point. But when players start expecting other players to use said add-ons in order to do flashpoints and operations is when this game goes the way of that OTHER MMO we dont talk about.

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einherjar_LC
01.04.2012 , 01:56 PM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by Yfelsung View Post
So to prevent groups from forcing you to do something, you'd instead force them not to do something?

I wish hypocrisy smelt like bacon, then more people would smell delicious.

No one is forcing anything, it's called a level playing field.

It's in the best interest of the developer to keep it as level as possible.


OP, I couldn't agree more. I've seen more games than I care go down the add on path and inevitably ruin by said add ons.

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Kantoro
01.04.2012 , 01:56 PM | #14
Quote: Originally Posted by Lazorous View Post
A lot of heal mods made healing easier and quicker. This gives those who participate in the mod an advantage over a person who prefers not to rely on said mods. However, the groups can then decide not to use you because you're not as efficient as the other person with the mod.

Get it?

By not having add-on/mod abilities, it's equal ground for everyone.
You chose to play the way you choose to play, I don't begrudge you that, if you want to play in a less efficient manner, you deal with the consequences. But don't expect me to conform to your ideals, I don't expect you to conform to mine.

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Lazorous
01.04.2012 , 01:56 PM | #15
Quote: Originally Posted by Yfelsung View Post
So to prevent groups from forcing you to do something, you'd instead force them not to do something?

I wish hypocrisy smelt like bacon, then more people would smell delicious.
It's not forcing them to not do something if it was never implemented. Your bacon is burnt.

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Voidence
01.04.2012 , 01:57 PM | #16
Quote: Originally Posted by Kantoro View Post
You chose to play the way you choose to play, I don't begrudge you that, if you want to play in a less efficient manner, you deal with the consequences. But don't expect me to conform to your ideals, I don't expect you to conform to mine.
So you need a crutch in order to be better? Then your really not that good.

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SlaterMarx
01.04.2012 , 01:57 PM | #17
Quote: Originally Posted by Lazorous View Post
The drawback of such add-ons is when it becomes a necessity and groups "force" you to adapt to their playstyle or you get the boot.

For example, Deadly Boss mod was a requirement for raiding. If you didn't have it, a lot of raid groups would say get it or don't come back.

A lot of heal mods made healing easier and quicker. This gives those who participate in the mod an advantage over a person who prefers not to rely on said mods. However, the groups can then decide not to use you because you're not as efficient as the other person with the mod.

Get it?

By not having add-on/mod abilities, it's equal ground for everyone.

I only have one hand.

Macros and add-ons are the only way I could raid in WoW.

So in my case macros were what created the level playing field, not the absence of them.

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Mercale
01.04.2012 , 01:57 PM | #18
Quote: Originally Posted by Yfelsung View Post
So to prevent groups from forcing you to do something, you'd instead force them not to do something?

I wish hypocrisy smelt like bacon, then more people would smell delicious.
Mmmmm, Do as I say, not as I do. Tasty.

Anyhow, I would just love a macro for redundant abilities, I've honestly ran out of space for keybinds, I can't even remember the last time I used Alt+ for something. (Aion perhaps?)
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VoodooMike
01.04.2012 , 01:58 PM | #19
There are different types of macros... some level of macro support would be nice. For example, it'd be nice to be able to create a macro that simply casts a power on your companion, rather than having to click on them, cast, then click back to the enemy and so on. I don't see how that'd break the game.

Add-ons... its a tough call. They can do cool things, but I agree that when they become required then something is wrong with the game - possibly there being too much functionality exposed to addons. An alternate way to look at it, though, is that when addons become ubiquitous, and basically necessary to play the game, then what has happened is a 3rd party has identified an excellent new feature that the developers should be implementing in the game itself in some way.

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Yfelsung
01.04.2012 , 01:58 PM | #20
Quote: Originally Posted by einherjar_LC View Post
No one is forcing anything, it's called a level playing field.

It's in the best interest of the developer to keep it as level as possible.
Oh, so something is stopping some players from using addons?

It is an equal playing field is addons, as anyone can use them.

You may choose to handicap yourself, but that's your choice.

Prohibition logic doesn't work no matter what angle you try to come at it.
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