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How did Han get to Bespin with no light speed?

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How did Han get to Bespin with no light speed?

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DarylMusashi
01.04.2012 , 04:29 AM | #11
Relativity is a little tricky when it comes to light speed. Essentially what it boils down to is that nothing with rest mass is able to accelerate to light speed or beyond. There are a few outs though.

Wormholes created through spacetime warps could allow short cutting around the universe which would give the effect of faster than light travel without the ship actually travelling anywhere near close to light speed itself.

Space expansion can also exceed lightspeed as it did during the inflationary period. The Alcubierre Warp Drive is designed to take advantage of this by creating a localized big bang behind the ship while creating a localized big crunch in front.

Tachyons that have always traveled faster than light are found in some solutions. They can never travel at light speed or less. They must always travel faster than light. Neutrinos that appear to behave this way have recently been detected although the issue is not settled.

Quantum Physics also can account for strange phenomena such as a the very remote probability that I suddenly teleport to the Hercules Galaxy.

Star Wars uses the 5th dimensional hypers space as a short cut much like a wormhole. Without something like this there is no way Han travels at sub light anywhere in his lifetime.

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Maelphaedor
01.04.2012 , 04:51 AM | #12
The Falcon, and most ships of it's era going forward have more than 1 hyperdrive. A 'spare tire" secondary that's incredibly slower than the primary. Limited range and slow. And I assume there is some switch over time, or everytime the main drive didn't engage, they'd have just switched over to the backup and been away. Check both the wookieepedia entries on hyperdrive and Millennium Falcon. Has everything needed to cap the discussion.

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Blazehound
01.04.2012 , 06:43 AM | #13
Traveling through hyperspace ain't like dusting crops, boy! Without precise calculations we could fly right through a star or bounce too close to a supernova, and that'd end your trip real quick, wouldn't it?
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Hyperspace requires the user avoid things like planets and asteroids far in advance. For example, it's actually quicker to go to tatooine from alderaan then from alderaan to coruscant, despite alderaan and coruscant being very close together. this allows for the movie variable time length hyperspace journey.

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Gridfire
01.04.2012 , 07:17 AM | #14
In response to the comment about lasers travelling slower than bullets, the 'lasers' they use in the Starwars universe are usually supposed to be superheated tibanna gas, so in another universe might be known as plasma guns/cannons, throwing bolts of plasma rather than just light. How the guns accelerate the blobs of gas has not been described in any EU fiction or the favourite place to get technical information for the SW universe: the SW RPG books, that I know of.

I don't think there is a problem with the Falcon getting to Bespin from the asteroid field, as Han said they were in the same sector. If a freighter can enter some kind of cruise mode and reach an appreciable fraction of C they travel could quite a long way in a day or two.

The question is, after the Falcon leaves Hoth, it appears that they immediately hit an asteroid field while running from the Imperial fleet and finding out they have no Hyperdrive, which suggests that planet Hoth is in the same system as Bespin, since star systems are usually at least a light-year apart in our part of our galaxy.

I guess the Star Wars galactic map could actually be set in the dense cluster around the center of their galaxy and so all the stars are right next to each other.
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Wolfninjajedi
01.04.2012 , 08:36 AM | #15
Quote: Originally Posted by Scribblicious View Post
Bespin system in Anoat sector =/= Anoat system
Leia: "Where are we?"

Han: "The Anoat system"

System/sector doesn't matter the point is they were in the area where Bespin is, so then didn't need to use the hyperdrive they couldn't anyway.
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ohmslaw
01.04.2012 , 09:09 AM | #16
Because Han Solo made the Kessel run in LESS than 12 Parsecs, That's Why!!
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austringer
01.04.2012 , 09:13 AM | #17
A harder question, how did Indiana Jones make it to the island when the sub submerged and he was on the outside of the sub??

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Rutrict
01.04.2012 , 09:16 AM | #18
If you really want something to wrap your head around....... Why didn't they just blow up Yavin Prime instead of trying to get to it's Moon?! That's the real question that could of stopped any of the other 2 movies. Silly Grand Moff Tarkin wasn't so grand!
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psandak
01.04.2012 , 09:27 AM | #19
In the movie "A New Hope" Han says that the Falcon did the "Kessel run" in less than 12 parsecs. Back in 1977 most thought that a parsec in this reference was a measure of time, when in fact it is a measure of distance (as it is in reality). In the Jedi Academy trilogy of novels this is clarified when the Kessel run is better described; Kessel sits in the middle of a cluster of black holes and due to "normal" speed limitations on ships a specific set of routes are laid out. However, due to the Falcon's speed Han is able to cut corners by getting closer to those black holes and shorten the distance he had to travel from the edge of the cluster to Kessel. In order to do this the Falcon has to be an incredibly fast ship even at sub-light speeds in order to get out of the gravity wells those black holes generate.

Also what Annikhan says is 100% true. Due to the fact that after the decision is made to head to Bespin, the focus goes back to Luke and Yoda, there is no real way to know how much time has passed between when they start to when they arrive.

Contributing to this is the fact that the Empire arrives before the Falcon does. To accomplish this, Boba Fett had to determine their likely destination, communicate with the empire, and the Empire then had to mobilize its forces to Bespin. Even with hyperdrive this takes time.

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AbsolutGrndZero
01.04.2012 , 09:42 AM | #20
Quote: Originally Posted by Rutrict View Post
If you really want something to wrap your head around....... Why didn't they just blow up Yavin Prime instead of trying to get to it's Moon?! That's the real question that could of stopped any of the other 2 movies. Silly Grand Moff Tarkin wasn't so grand!
Because Yavin Prime was a gas giant, not a terrestrial planet. To use our real planets... I'll give you the Death Star's take on them... "Space Dust" or "Damn..."

Mercury: Space Dust
Venus: Space Dust
Earth: Space Dust
Mars: Space Dust
Jupiter: Damn...
Saturn: Damn...
Uranus: Damn...
Neptune: Damn...
Pluto: Space Dust.

Yavin Prime is "Damn..."
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