The Expertise stat has to go...

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The Expertise stat has to go...

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wixxkruppel

01.23.2012 , 10:42 AM \| #851
Quote: Originally Posted by FalmeseReb So just keep playing in that 10-49 bracket if you can't handle a 30% performance difference against your opponents due to a single badly designed gear stat, which existence makes no logical sense to begin with. Fixed it for you.

Okamakiri

01.23.2012 , 10:45 AM \| #852
If top PVP gear = top PVE gear, there is no need for special PVP stat. Special stats just create segregation of player base, which is never good for the game. There is no reason why someone who enjoys both PVP and PVE can't wear a mix of PVP & PVE gear. Forcing people to focus on one aspect of the game is not good for anyone. And to all the PVP-only people in the thread against this idea, if you think you're hot sh*t, then you shouldn't need a special stat advantage to beat a "PVE noob". Besides, this isn't WoW, if anything PVP gear is superior to PVE gear atm. PVP is so much more enjoyable pre-50 because it's more about skill then gear.

rtek

01.23.2012 , 10:51 AM \| #853
Always the same idea from same kind of players from wow to swtor. If you don't want pvp gear don't do it, it is so simple. Go raid or something, i want reward for my time in pvp. And i am not guy who stay all day long in station and wait for bg, i do quests, exploring and crafitng. Some of you guys want no story, no pvp gear, no grind, no quests, no huge planets, no ships, instant teleports and exct. Maybe is mmo wrong genre for you people and you should try with fps games

Gwal

01.23.2012 , 10:51 AM \| #854
Quote: Originally Posted by Okamakiri If top PVP gear = top PVE gear, there is no need for special PVP stat. Special stats just create segregation of player base, which is never good for the game. There is no reason why someone who enjoys both PVP and PVE can't wear a mix of PVP & PVE gear. Forcing people to focus on one aspect of the game is not good for anyone. And to all the PVP-only people in the thread against this idea, if you think you're hot sh*t, then you shouldn't need a special stat advantage to beat a "PVE noob". Besides, this isn't WoW, if anything PVP gear is superior to PVE gear atm. PVP is so much more enjoyable pre-50 because it's more about skill then gear. No way. I want to make people with lives outside the game feel weaker than me and their reflexes/tactics should not be a factor then when they quit and the game stagnates I can move onto the next MMO and do further damage to my long distance vision in return for repeating this experience. Srsly These issues are what makes games like this another stop gap before the next big thing.

uQQme

01.23.2012 , 10:55 AM \| #855
Same gears. Same builds. Same stats. Top guilds will always steamroll newer inexperienced players. Guild Wars says hi.

rtek

01.23.2012 , 11:02 AM \| #856
Quote: Originally Posted by SolxTheUnmaker This has to be the best logic i have ever read, you sir need to be the head of PVP development for Bioware. O yea sure. You would like noobs from pve to dominate pvp. Raid guys with best pve gear to pawn everyone. Well, king of mmo wow did that and swtor stay with that because it is best way to do it. There is no other way and it is the only fair way to everyone, pve gear is simply not fair because big guilds with regular raiding times would destroy pvp.So continue dreaming

rtek

01.23.2012 , 11:03 AM \| #857
Quote: Originally Posted by uQQme Same gears. Same builds. Same stats. Top guilds will always steamroll newer inexperienced players. Guild Wars says hi. Nice, bye bye Have fun with new story about 7 dragons destroying world

Gwal

01.23.2012 , 11:05 AM \| #858
Quote: Originally Posted by rtek Nice, bye bye Have fun with new story about 7 dragons destroying world I'm a PvPer not a lore geek.

Treebyrn

01.23.2012 , 11:05 AM \| #859
Quote: Originally Posted by rtek Always the same idea from same kind of players from wow to swtor. If you don't want pvp gear don't do it, it is so simple. Go raid or something, i want reward for my time in pvp. And i am not guy who stay all day long in station and wait for bg, i do quests, exploring and crafitng. Some of you guys want no story, no pvp gear, no grind, no quests, no huge planets, no ships, instant teleports and exct. Maybe is mmo wrong genre for you people and you should try with fps games Lol, this person seems to think that when all that is left is him and a few hundred of his fellow hard core pvp peeps... that Bioware is going to conitinue to spend money on the pvp side of the game. In fact if the % of pvpers goes down and the % of pve'ers go up then where do you think bioware is going to spend all their time and money on??? Ask yourself this in 6 months when pvp is still a freaking mess and pve side has 3 brand new raids.
"I'm not insane! My mother had me tested!" -Sheldon Cooper

Cabdriver-

01.23.2012 , 11:09 AM \| #860
Quote: Originally Posted by Okamakiri If top PVP gear = top PVE gear, there is no need for special PVP stat. Special stats just create segregation of player base, which is never good for the game. There is no reason why someone who enjoys both PVP and PVE can't wear a mix of PVP & PVE gear. Forcing people to focus on one aspect of the game is not good for anyone. And to all the PVP-only people in the thread against this idea, if you think you're hot sh*t, then you shouldn't need a special stat advantage to beat a "PVE noob". Besides, this isn't WoW, if anything PVP gear is superior to PVE gear atm. PVP is so much more enjoyable pre-50 because it's more about skill then gear. If PvP and PvE gear is absolutely the same, I will still steamroll players just the same way as with expertise. I am already unkillable 2v1. If it so means that I earn gear quicker through raiding and hardmodes/whatever, I will simply form a top-notch group of elite players and mass-farm raids/HM's for the best and easiest obtainable gear, and continue to steamroll in warzones. People will still outgear other people, and the competition is by no means any "fairer" unless you remove gear from the game completely, which sure as hell will infuriate the community.

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