The Expertise stat has to go...

Anyone can get the gear with a trivial amount of effort.

Having it so people have to actually pvp a little bit to get it is good. Having lazy pvers showing up in Warzones screwing things up because they play once a month is no good. It is good that people should prove an interest and desire to pvp to be good at it.

If you can not play enough to get gear you are not some super skilled player being held back.

People who think armor is why they get rolled are not skilled at Pvp.

Skills to get geared, gear to get top spot. Right now everyone is in mad rush to get expertise on their gear, eventually stats will grow enough where min/maxing and getting too much expertise will be a bad thing. Eventually harder PvE content will come out and PvP gear in Operations will be trashy.

If there is no discernable difference in gearing and you believe that the only thing that should matter in PvP is the timing of when you mash your keys then you can switch to a fighting game for all your PvP needs.

Because I spent more time in PvP I do want to see a difference in my gear level than the others, it shows off my dedication to my field of gaming. Is it because I want to steam roll new PvP players and not give them a chance? absolutely, because if they can't handle a few beat down without quitting then I don't want them near me, they probably don't have the patience to learn and eventually be a crappy highly geared pvper. Same concept in PvE right? while skill (boss strategy) is important, you would want someone who is dedicated to that field and able to whipe and continue on without raging. You don't want some PvPer comming in and crapping all over your game,causing you to wipe and rage quit mid raid and leave your group stranded because he now thinks PvE is boring or just got the gear he needed and will now leave.

Also making PvE gear and PvP gear comparable will lead to overgearing (even more so than it is now) and to be able to throttle that rate would be harder without forcing players to play both types.

Except for the fact PvP gear is easier to get. Nice try though.

Honestly i think i get rolled because of my max hp being about 12k without said gear and ppl with the gear crit me for half that in 1 skill.

I have 3 times in this thread, maybe you should read it....

It isn't there to make the difference in "old" and "new" PVP players. It is so that hardcore PVP players with a full set of battlemaster gear can still compete with hardcore raiders in PVP.

Full Rakata gear is noticably better then full battlemaster gear. The expertise on the battlemaster gear is to try and even that out in a PVP situation. So, with that in mind, a new PVP player could have been a long term raider going into warzones with full rakata gear and dominate players with full battlemaster gear despite have 0 expertise to there 10%.

And that is why there is expertise.

You have 3 options for setting up pvp gearing in an mmo:

1. No Pvp Stat (people who have spent a lot of time raiding outgear everyone)

2. Pvp Stat (Resiliance/Expertise/Valor, etc) (people who spend a lot of time pvping outgear everyone)

3. No gear progression at all. (PvP is dead and no one does it because there is no reward)

Pick your poisen

Option 4. Normalize stats so gear is irrelevant in warzones. Reward PvPing some other way.

Just the lack of disparity between the 2 sides of the house is what gets me i realize it is early in game and ppl have stated when harder pve content comes out pvp gear will be less usefull for it. But whats to say they wont boost the expertise stats with the next set of gear because it was made painfully obvious that pvp player want gear progression over rank progression.

Option 5 New players are discouraged from pvp, pvp populations stagnates current population slowly bleeds out --- PVP IS DEAD...