The Expertise stat has to go...

I think getting rid of expertise is not necessary. But there should be some starting PVP gear available for valor, with less stats but with expertise.

Currently the difference from a full Champion geared character to a character even with 3-4 pieces of Champion gear is too big (even more to new 50s without any gear, if he did not level up by pvping and getting some bags right away). It is at a point where you do not need to fight at all, because no matter what, the character with full Champion gear will win. And it is absolutly not fun farming that gear if you feel helpless and hardly can do anything to support your team. Having some expertise on the starting gear should level that out.

Acutally for me it feels even more imbalanced than fighting in low tier a character that is 20 levels above me (thanks to stat adjustments) and has a lot more different abilities at his disposal. so despite having a lvl 50 char with now 4 champion and 1 centurion part, I do prefer to pvp with a low level char, just because it is more fun.

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but let me get this straight. it's not fair for new pvpers to go up against expertise stacked people, but it would be fair for them to go up against people that have been hardcore raiding for months and have a ridiculous amount more primary/secondary stats?

if people want to pve they arent forced to pvp to get gear. and if people want to pvp they shouldnt be forced to pve to get gear - and it simply wouldnt make sense to get the same gear from doing both.

@people talking about resil in wow, you can get a full pvp honor set that is very competive in a weeks worth of semi-casual play. and in swtor so far? i've gotten 400+ expertise (acceptable amount by most standards) in less than a weeks worth of semi-casual play. suck it up for a little and quit the ************ - the gear comes easily.

No you got it wrong.

It's not fair for new PvP'ers to go up against expertise stacked guys. And it is not fair for PvE'ers to be roflstomping PvP'ers either. Read my thread in the above post for a system that would have worked. (A PvE only bonus on raid gear, that only makes them better in PvE but means they can play PvP)

Thank you. I see no problem with pvp stat geared people. They worked hard for it just as hard as i worked for my raid gear.

Is it fair for me to 1-2 shot ppl pvping with my pve gear? Guess we need to remove pve gear aswell.

PVE'ers who don't want to put in the time for PVP come up with these threads in every game like this.

"Worked Hard" yeah for gear that is now more expensive and harder for new PvPer's to get i see your "Hard Work" /sarcasm, Expertise is a stupit stat that needs to be abolished.

Actually I have been PvP'n for weeks pretty much every day and have been extremely unlucky on champ bags as has my bf now in 50 only bracket PvP because we are undergeared compared to all those lucky people who got items instantly we pretty much get stomped every 2 seconds GG.

Well in this game it sure is more luck than anything else.
Still, is it fair to 1 shot ppl with pve gear?

It doesn't take a lot of common sense to realize expertise is just a fail game design mechanic that's long outlived itself.

Too bad for these forums, common sense is in short supply over the internet.

You can't really even call yourself a pvp'er if you're actually defending a stat that let's you faceroll anyone who doesn't have it. You're more like a pvp carebear.

Give me raid equal gear while doing pvp then , i dont mind. Oh and let it be hardmode gear aswell please.