The Expertise stat has to go...

Most play in the minor leagues first. Give us a minor league to get better before I have to play against Sidney Crosby. Either start giving gear with some expertise as players level or bracket the players differently. I don't expect to be dominating my PvP matches as soon as I hit 50.

The reason for it isn't to help or hinder pvp'ers, it's to prevent raiders from being forced to pvp to remain competitive

The only thing they would have had to do, was keep PvP gear up to date with PvE gear, and simply give a passive PvP buff to everyone that reduced dmg and burst in PvP.

And also to prevent competitive pvpers from being forced to raid.

Seriously, no one seems to remember the old days when the raiders would dominate PvP based on gear advantages and everyone would whine about that.

The game is built around gear progression. Having two different paths for PvE and PvP is a good thing because it allows people to focus on what they like to do without feeling like they have to do everything if they don't want to. If you want a completely level playing field from the get go, there are many other different types of PvP games out there.

How can people be so amazingly feeble minded.

There where several (and retarded) reasons WoW created Resilience on PvP gear.

1. Damage and burst was too high.
Rogues in highend PvP gear could 2shot a new lvl 60. Some mages could 1shot POM Pyro.

2. Raiding gear was too good compared to PvP gear.
High Warlord gear was at the same level as Blackwing Lair gear. But when AQ40 and Naxx40 came out, PvP gear was too weak.

3. Raiding was close to the only way to get epic gear.
To reach rank10+ required an insane amount of sustained time played. You couldnt play more one month than another. If you didnt continue to play all the time for month after month, your rank would drop. In the end, around 5% of the PvP playerbase had PvP epics, and less than 1% had High Warlord PvP weapons. Ofcourse there where the Lobotimizer and The Unstoppable Force. Both where epic, but the weakest possible epic weapons.

4. Blizzard never increased to added the amount of PvP weapons obtainable in through PvP.
Raiding gear was never the problem. Blizzard just told the PvPers. Go **** yourselves.. we wont give you more gear through PvP.


In TBC Blizzard added Resilience. What did it do?
It reduced the chance to be critted, and reduced the dmg of crits. This was done because burst was too high. THAT WAS THE ONLY THING PvP GEAR DID. It also had slightly more HP, but not much.

The only thing they would have had to do, was keep PvP gear up to date with PvE gear, and simply give a passive PvP buff to everyone that reduced dmg and burst in PvP.

What does Bioware do?
They added Expertise. What does it do? It decreases the dmg players take, increases the dmg they do to eachother, increases the healing they do. ALL BY THE SAME AMOUNT. So you could take the Expertise stat away completely in PvP.. since 2 players in full epic PvP gear, will not take less dmg against eachother and will not do more dmg against eachother
Why? Because if they both do 10% more dmg, and both take 10% less dmg... what is the outcome?

So why on earth did they even add the retarded Expertise.. instead of just making sure to keep PvP and PvE gear up to date with eachother?

1. To make sure Raiders get ****ed over in PvP and Ilum. Unless they PvP as much as the PvPers.

2. To make it as PAINFULL as humanly possible, for new players to start doing PvP. They will have to get group A N A L ***** for an eternity before they can start ****** the ones who come after them.

3. The last reason they added Expertise.. Because every retarded donky MMO copies WoWs idiotic system, instead of thinking for themselves.

THERE IS NO REASON TO ADD A PVP STAT IN A GAME LIKE THIS. You are fixing NO PROBLEMS, while creating loads of frustrations for anyone other than the morons who have; no job, no girlfriend, a squeeky voice and no life.

Oh.. and before you even think to name me a PvEer. I am a PvPer by heart. I enjoy PvE yes. But PvP is what I play for.. but the resilience / expertise stat was created by someone who decided to shoot birds with nuclear weapons, overkill?

Both PvErs and PvPers pay and play. Neither should have the advantage through gear in world PvP. PvPers get more PvP experience through PvP, and that is the edge they should have... asking for more, is saying that you are simply a bad player and need the better gear to compete.

Why do I hate this system? Because I CBA leveling a new char to PvP with. I PAY TO HAVE FUN. I will not accept having to go through a paintrain before I get to have the fun I pay for.

Anyone who thinks resilience, valor, expertise is needed, are unable to think outside the box WoW put them in.

How can people be so amazingly feeble minded.

There where several (and retarded) reasons WoW created Resilience on PvP gear.

1. Damage and burst was too high.
Rogues in highend PvP gear could 2shot a new lvl 60. Some mages could 1shot POM Pyro.

2. Raiding gear was too good compared to PvP gear.
High Warlord gear was at the same level as Blackwing Lair gear. But when AQ40 and Naxx40 came out, PvP gear was too weak.

3. Raiding was close to the only way to get epic gear.
To reach rank10+ required an insane amount of sustained time played. You couldnt play more one month than another. If you didnt continue to play all the time for month after month, your rank would drop. In the end, around 5% of the PvP playerbase had PvP epics, and less than 1% had High Warlord PvP weapons. Ofcourse there where the Lobotimizer and The Unstoppable Force. Both where epic, but the weakest possible epic weapons.

4. Blizzard never increased to added the amount of PvP weapons obtainable in through PvP.
Raiding gear was never the problem. Blizzard just told the PvPers. Go **** yourselves.. we wont give you more gear through PvP.


In TBC Blizzard added Resilience. What did it do?
It reduced the chance to be critted, and reduced the dmg of crits. This was done because burst was too high. THAT WAS THE ONLY THING PvP GEAR DID. It also had slightly more HP, but not much.

The only thing they would have had to do, was keep PvP gear up to date with PvE gear, and simply give a passive PvP buff to everyone that reduced dmg and burst in PvP.

What does Bioware do?
They added Expertise. What does it do? It decreases the dmg players take, increases the dmg they do to eachother, increases the healing they do. ALL BY THE SAME AMOUNT. So you could take the Expertise stat away completely in PvP.. since 2 players in full epic PvP gear, will not take less dmg against eachother and will not do more dmg against eachother
Why? Because if they both do 10% more dmg, and both take 10% less dmg... what is the outcome?

So why on earth did they even add the retarded Expertise.. instead of just making sure to keep PvP and PvE gear up to date with eachother?

1. To make sure Raiders get ****ed over in PvP and Ilum. Unless they PvP as much as the PvPers.

2. To make it as PAINFULL as humanly possible, for new players to start doing PvP. They will have to get group A N A L ***** for an eternity before they can start ****** the ones who come after them.

3. The last reason they added Expertise.. Because every retarded donky MMO copies WoWs idiotic system, instead of thinking for themselves.

THERE IS NO REASON TO ADD A PVP STAT IN A GAME LIKE THIS. You are fixing NO PROBLEMS, while creating loads of frustrations for anyone other than the morons who have; no job, no girlfriend, a squeeky voice and no life.

Oh.. and before you even think to name me a PvEer. I am a PvPer by heart. I enjoy PvE yes. But PvP is what I play for.. but the resilience / expertise stat was created by someone who decided to shoot birds with nuclear weapons, overkill?

Both PvErs and PvPers pay and play. Neither should have the advantage through gear in world PvP. PvPers get more PvP experience through PvP, and that is the edge they should have... asking for more, is saying that you are simply a bad player and need the better gear to compete.

Why do I hate this system? Because I CBA leveling a new char to PvP with. I PAY TO HAVE FUN. I will not accept having to go through a paintrain before I get to have the fun I pay for.

Anyone who thinks resilience, valor, expertise is needed, are unable to think outside the box WoW put them in.

The reason they couldn't do that was they didn't want PvP gear to allow you to leapfrog PvE progression. When Naxx came out, in order to be successful, you still needed to complete the earlier tiers. In addition, they didn't want someone who did raiding + PvP to progress in raiding faster than someone who did raiding only. That's the purpose of a PVP-only stat; it prevents PvP gear from affecting PvE progression.

Expertise is not the problem. If you removed expertise, there would still be a gear gap between vets and fresh 50s.