The Expertise stat has to go...

It seems like you can't grasp why expertise is ruining PvP.

Looks like another case of blind fanboyism to me.

PVP is competitive, but that is a subjective word. You don't put a highschool team against a professional team and call the a competitive game. Why would an experienced and skilled pvper want to dominate alts and new players with the added advantage of having a big damage and mitigation advantage?

The problem created by rewarding time commited to pvp with gear that makes pvp easier is that you receive an advantage beyond the already growing advantage of skill and practice. Newer players and people making a new character have to que up for warzones and grind out currency so they can get their gear, and the result of this is getting completely destroyed by people that many of which would beat them in even gear, but now have an even further advantage by having better gear. In many cases the people with better gear may even not have as much as and aptitude for pvp so the person with lesser gear still loses even though they played their character more skillfully.

If we want to have a healthy growing pvp community we really need to make it as newbie friendly as possible. Not carebearing it down by simplifying abilities and strategy, but by using skill as the only advantage. Not seniority.

PVP is competitive, but that is a subjective word. You don't put a highschool team against a professional team and call that a competitive game. Why would an experienced and skilled pvper want to dominate alts and new players with the added advantage of having a big damage and mitigation advantage?

The problem created by rewarding time commited to pvp with gear that makes pvp easier is that you receive an advantage beyond the already growing advantage of skill and practice. Newer players and people making a new character have to que up for warzones and grind out currency so they can get their gear, and the result of this is getting completely destroyed by people that many of which would beat them in even gear, but now have an even further advantage by having better gear. In many cases the people with better gear may even not have as much of an aptitude for pvp so the person with lesser gear still loses even though they played their character more skillfully.

If we want to have a healthy growing pvp community we really need to make it as newbie friendly as possible. Not carebearing it down by simplifying abilities and strategy, but by using skill as the only advantage. Not seniority.

dude I honestly agree with you, which is why I play LoL heavly. but fact is no MMO will ever be what you ask, by its very nature mmo's are a gear game.

On topic.
"mission accomplished"? is the mission long que times? the fewer who que the longer ques are.
And regardless of pvp gear pvp will ALWAYS be about rolfstomping undergeared toons, if not via the PVP grind, then the PVE grind.
And yes unless you make a PVP stat people whom raid 40 hours a week will faceroll the pvp aswell, and no having both gears be the same wont work.
They wont always release a new raid and pvp gear at the same time, sorry its unrealistic.
simple fact is you bought a car and want a truck. its just not how MMOs have or ever will work.

you dont see how with out the stat the reason to grind pvp will go down, meaning que times go up.
and 2 months from now people will be ************ that PVE heros in end game gear rickroll fresh 50s.
MMOs have gear gaps, that is the nature of the beast.
I wonder how no one else sees this? before wow had a PVP stat people in BWL gear stomped a mud hole in anyone who didnt raid.
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