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Was anakin/darthvader ever actually not of the dark side

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Was anakin/darthvader ever actually not of the dark side

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Wolfninjajedi
01.03.2012 , 11:14 AM | #11
Quote: Originally Posted by xnoxiousx View Post
Who says they were not? A jedi would only do it if he knew or would not at all.
Well the fact that they were hostile to pretty much anyone they come across, suggests that they were not innocent.
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Daederik
01.03.2012 , 11:50 AM | #12
They totally had red name tags on them.

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01.03.2012 , 12:08 PM | #13
First of there are no inocent sand people.
They will kill outsiders no mather what age or gender they are.

I think it is already very clear that most people(including me) dont like that anakin was a whiny brat in the prequal's while vadar was accauly competent.

Also padme died because she lost the will to live.

Now i know you believe haters refuse to believe that is possibol but it is.

What i dont get is why anakin fell in love with a wemon twice his age(i mean the reverse is less icky)
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01.03.2012 , 12:10 PM | #14
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First of there are no inocent sand people.
They will kill outsiders no mather what age or gender they are.

I think it is already very clear that most people(including me) dont like that anakin was a whiny breat in the prequal's with vadar accauly appreach competent.

Also padme died because she lost the will to live.

Now i know you believe haters refuse to believe that is possibol but it is.

What i dont get is why anakin fell in love with a wemon twice his age(i mean the reverse is less icky)
Since when has age mattered? IRL people have fallen in love with one of them being 10 years younger then they are.
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alienstalker
01.03.2012 , 12:12 PM | #15
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Also a plot hole.... Why does padme at end of episode 3 care so much he killed young children then when in episode 2 he killed all the innocent and she still married him and did not care. lol makes no sense to me get your priority's right.
Star Wars is a incredibly immoral society. Thats why. The younglings were on their side, thats why she cared a little about it.

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alienstalker
01.03.2012 , 12:14 PM | #16
Quote: Originally Posted by internaty View Post
First of there are no inocent sand people.
They will kill outsiders no mather what age or gender they are.

I think it is already very clear that most people(including me) dont like that anakin was a whiny brat in the prequal's while vadar was accauly competent.

Also padme died because she lost the will to live.

Now i know you believe haters refuse to believe that is possibol but it is.

What i dont get is why anakin fell in love with a wemon twice his age(i mean the reverse is less icky)
she was only 5 years older than him

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alienstalker
01.03.2012 , 12:15 PM | #17
she was only 5 years older than him.

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Vianica
01.03.2012 , 12:50 PM | #18
Quote: Originally Posted by internaty View Post
What i dont get is why anakin fell in love with a wemon twice his age(i mean the reverse is less icky)
Here's what I don't get: what makes you - and you're not alone here - think that Padme was 25 in the first movie?

She wasn't. She was like 12 or 13. (And what's-her-face that played her was actually quite close to that age in real life when she made the movie; I remember because there were a lot of behind-the-scenes things on television while they were still making it and it was pointed out that the actress wasn't just playing an age, she actually WAS that age.)

And wow, could you be more sexist with that comment? It's ok for men to date younger women, but not the other way around? Just... wow.
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SammyRath
01.03.2012 , 01:02 PM | #19
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2. Also i have nothing against them showing his attachments but they said in on of the original movies it was obiwan i think he said "he was a noble jedi knight seduced by the dark side" Im not really sure i can agree with that due to fact he really was lead by no one but him self and his emotions. The way he said it in originals made it sound like sith lord did it when he already did lots evil stuff fin episode 2.
Watch Episode 3 again.

He did not give in to the dark side on his own. He was corrupted by Darth Sidious.
The stuff he did in Episode 2 was pretty dark yes, but It wasn't caused by his desire for power. It was revenge for what the sand people did to his mother. While in Episode 3 all the evil stuff he does, I.E. kill the younglings, murder the Seperatist leaders, choke Padme and fight Obi-Wan (more or less in that order) was all because he believed he needed the full power of the dark side to save his wife.
That's the seduction, Sidious made him believe the Dark Side was the path he needed to take.

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I think it is already very clear that most people(including me) dont like that anakin was a whiny brat in the prequal's while vadar was accauly competent.
I think you phrased that wrong. Anakin was whiny yes, but he was in no way incompetent. In fact he was probably more competent in Episode 3 than Vader ever was.

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Irudious
01.03.2012 , 01:13 PM | #20
Ugh you guys have it all wrong... Just pretend like episode I-III were a sad joke and didn't happen. If George Luc-*** was a better director we would have a trilogy of prequels that didn't suck. Since he was able to run around unchecked by the people who had the skill to make a good movie, like Steven Spielberg, we got 3 movies of mindless action and zero satisfaction to the original movies true plot. In my opinion someone should hijack his failure and make a new Starwars about the same characters but told the way it should have been. That is, not having Anakin pop out of the virgin Mary and have him build a legacy around being a powerful Jedi that turns evil. Not some tool who was the most powerful from birth..