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Revan & Boarding Party Hard Mode


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ImApologetic
01.02.2012 , 11:36 PM | #1
After taking a look at the public test server area on the forums, reading the patch notes etc, i am extremely disappointed.

Unless i am mistaken Revan one shotting your party is not working as intended and limits the amount of hard modes the Empire can complete. And at the same time is it alright that the 3 bosses at the end of boarding party should be nigh on impossible to kill, it can be done but not without wiping for a long time and kiting the boss around in their enrage, and ofc not to mention 1 wipe means no loot.


Now i see a fix for the only major hard mode bug on republic side. Cool, how is this fair to the other side of the game? Republic have access to 6 working hard modes, thats 2 more than Empire can successfully do. Not to mention that 3 of the 4 that empire have are quite difficult without the proper equipment/strategy(they are doable with the correct strategy, but most of the time you will hit an enrage timer.)

I'm not asking for these to really be made easier, just fix the problems so that you don't wipe 20 times trying to finish boarding party, and you get no loot from the boss. I don't mind a challenge, lots of people don't mind a challenge, but when the challenge appears to require more than just coordination and skill, but also a base level of equipment unattainable without doing hard modes that atm are overtuned(Medic hitting 3-4k crits in BP, Chief hitting your party with 2-3k hits every 5-10s). It is quite infuriating.

/rant.

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Okanitu
01.03.2012 , 12:04 AM | #2
Betcha regret rolling Empire now eh?

Eh?


No but seriously, Revan is a ******. And...I have no idea, sorry.

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BountyHuntertwo
01.03.2012 , 12:13 AM | #3
This is so true. Now sure you can clear HM BP if you have a well-geared, high-skill group except it is supposed to be second easiest HM FP after BT, and most people by this point aren't well-geared. Foundry is just ridiculous, now sure some crazy good people can burn through his Force Lightning, but that is nowhere near most of us. I can run that with a group I know, and not have a single wipe or serious problem, but we can't clear the end boss because one of his attacks is bugged out? That is pathetic, and it is a shame it went live like this. Bioware, please focus on major endgame progression bugs/problems. Quality of Life things are frustrating/annoying, but aren't so critical that they become insurmountable hurdles for your customers such as bugged/heavily overtuned Hard Mode Flashpoints.

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ImApologetic
01.03.2012 , 12:22 AM | #4
At the very least an ETA would be nice.

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TheFirm
01.03.2012 , 01:46 AM | #5
Revan and Boarding party are killable:

-To kill Boarding Party bosses you can do what we did; Kill Engineer then the commander, you will get quest completed and get your token, chest will be un-lootable however.
We have tried to kill this boss in the correct order and on top of the chest with no luck but one of our hard mode groups actually managed to loot it somehow.

-Revan can be killed ONLY if you have an assassin in your party:
DPS Revan as normal to 50% this is when he will do his 1st Lightning Storm, keep bruning him down.
-At around 30% or 10seconds after he finishes his Storm cast your assassin needs to Grab aggro and pop his "shield wall" (the spell that lasts 3seconds).
-Revan will channel Lightning Strike (this is the ability that 1-shots), interrupt it and DPS him down.
-Revan will 1-shot 2 people shortly after, no way to deal with this unless you have a 2nd Assassin.
-Bring Revan to 11% wait untill he does his 2nd Lightning Storm AOE.
- As soon as his storm ends burn him down to 4% and prey the script triggers correctly.

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Talarii
01.03.2012 , 02:45 AM | #6
BP is little more than a healing/dps check. The actual strat is very simplistic. My group clears is on first or second try each day. I have good gear, average 130 rating or so stuff. But most others in my group are like 115-120 rating gear and we still make it work. The commander might hit enrage at the end but if you same defense cds for that moment you can finish off at least 5% or so right then. Mostly you just have to have perfect positioning for melee dps so tank dont get splashed by commander aoe and your healer should be able to keep up.

As far as the foundry bug, yeah, its stupid. It seems like they just added an extra 0 onto the dmg. I am annoyed that these things could not have been tested properly for them to be rolled out as they are. Give it a month and a lot of it will be gone I am sure. If the flashpoints are different on each side it is inevitable there will be some imbalance in how many are perfectly tuned. The game still has that new game smell though, give it time.

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iDerrien
01.03.2012 , 05:51 AM | #7
Quote: Originally Posted by Talarii View Post
BP is little more than a healing/dps check. The actual strat is very simplistic. My group clears is on first or second try each day. I have good gear, average 130 rating or so stuff. But most others in my group are like 115-120 rating gear and we still make it work. The commander might hit enrage at the end but if you same defense cds for that moment you can finish off at least 5% or so right then. Mostly you just have to have perfect positioning for melee dps so tank dont get splashed by commander aoe and your healer should be able to keep up.

As far as the foundry bug, yeah, its stupid. It seems like they just added an extra 0 onto the dmg. I am annoyed that these things could not have been tested properly for them to be rolled out as they are. Give it a month and a lot of it will be gone I am sure. If the flashpoints are different on each side it is inevitable there will be some imbalance in how many are perfectly tuned. The game still has that new game smell though, give it time.

with an average of 130 gear any party should be able to faceroll boarding party. because the only way to improve this gear is to get tier 3 equip. this makes BP runs pointless unless you're interessted in those crafting ingredients.

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Relidar
01.03.2012 , 06:03 AM | #8
Revan seriously needs to be fixed ASAP. Tried this boss several times now, with good geared people, everyone on mumble/ventrilo. It's impossible.

There's just no way for us to kill this boss, even after having the tank pop cd's, shielding him etc.

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DarthHendo
01.03.2012 , 06:40 AM | #9
I did a PUG Eternity Vault last night with WAY more success (4/5) than trying to do a HM on the Empire side. The only HM that's doable is Black Talon. Boarding Party, Illum, Foundry...

These bugs need to be fixed. Eternity Vault is a trial to complete in itself. Not because the bosses are difficult, but because it's so damn buggy. The first boss wouldn't spawn, so we had to run our and reset the instance. The 2nd boss was bugged, and 1 shotting ppl outside the instance, so we had to reset again, and re-clear the trash.

3rd boss went well, except after we looted the chest, it never despawned, and therfore we had to make the run from the previous speeder landing zone every time aftr a wipe.

4th boss (council) had to be reset, because after engaging 1 time, they were locked on that target regardless of wipe.


I am really enjoying this game, but the state of bugs and gameplay (ability delay) is quite disappointing. I really hope they fix this soon. The game has alot of potential, but patience in todays gaming is not abundant.
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Cyphen
01.03.2012 , 08:15 AM | #10
Quote: Originally Posted by TheFirm View Post
Revan and Boarding party are killable:

-To kill Boarding Party bosses you can do what we did; Kill Engineer then the commander, you will get quest completed and get your token, chest will be un-lootable however.
We have tried to kill this boss in the correct order and on top of the chest with no luck but one of our hard mode groups actually managed to loot it somehow.

-Revan can be killed ONLY if you have an assassin in your party:
DPS Revan as normal to 50% this is when he will do his 1st Lightning Storm, keep bruning him down.
-At around 30% or 10seconds after he finishes his Storm cast your assassin needs to Grab aggro and pop his "shield wall" (the spell that lasts 3seconds).
-Revan will channel Lightning Strike (this is the ability that 1-shots), interrupt it and DPS him down.
-Revan will 1-shot 2 people shortly after, no way to deal with this unless you have a 2nd Assassin.
-Bring Revan to 11% wait untill he does his 2nd Lightning Storm AOE.
- As soon as his storm ends burn him down to 4% and prey the script triggers correctly.
Just did it, when he popped his shield, iv put my pet on passive and stopped attacking him. Script triggered and Revan exploded.
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