You Guys DO Realize You're The Minority, Right?

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You Guys DO Realize You're The Minority, Right?

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twisted_and_mean

01.03.2012 , 01:22 AM \| #181
Quote: Originally Posted by Captain_Failure Not when you take into account that the people he speaks of proclaim the death of an MMO based on nothing but hyperbole, bias, and sensationalism. They often do, but it's hardly relevant. If a large portion of your target audience is biased you better accommodate their bias, otherwise you'll be loosing money. And guess how they're going to balance the decrease in sales on their balance sheets. I'd really love to see SWTOR become an enjoyable and competitive MMO, but EA is notorious for making bad managerial decisions, WO being the most prominent example. If they decide that the game can exist relying only on Star Wars fanbase without trying to be considerate to wise wishes of the players, that's not going to end well.

Captain_Failure

01.03.2012 , 01:24 AM \| #182
Quote: Originally Posted by Gunryu Combat delay, single player feel, bad UI, no pvp brackets........that is not bias, hyperbole, or sensationalism. Our argument is based on we know what an MMO is rather than console single player gamers who came here because they saw Star Wars, the people who experienced MMOs for many years (before even WoW) are the people that will stick around when the "great story" leveling is over. I wouldn't because you will never find an honest review from major reviewers, they are either paid by the developers or their competitors (mostly developers) to say things........don't believe me? Ask the reviewer for Gamespot who got fired for giving a bad review of Kane and Lynch 2. Until you can argue your point without the three things I mentioned or resorting to subjective opinion then I'm afraid you have no right to try and counter my statement. In a proper debate the two parties do not resort to such tactics. Calling this game single player? Saying the UI is objectively terrible and no brackets are a bad thing when the statements themselves are objective opinion? Bringing up combat delay when a good gamer knows how to adapt to the playing field? I hate to tell you this since it will shatter your self important world view but this is not a "single player game," the UI is bad to you and the day I'll agree on no bracketing is the day I can't destroy a level 50 on my level 22 Operative, in melee, where your nightmare combat delay is supposed to hurt the most. Come to me with facts, then I'll take you seriously.

romandaemon

01.03.2012 , 01:26 AM \| #183
Quote: Originally Posted by Blackwater You do realize 80% of all quests are share d by each class right? Sure thing...they are still awesome quests, different dialogue options to pick on different play throughout, not to mention dark/light dialogue choices....that are all voiced over. Its pure bliss....I have 0 temptation to even try pvp or large group /time consuming content for about a year.... When u saw bioware and story focused mmo....my mind flashed KOTOR3 with multiplayer this time around. Much to my excitement, I was right.
I find your lack of faith disturbing...

HavenAE

01.03.2012 , 01:27 AM \| #184
Quote: Originally Posted by RecondoJoe That's why there is over 2,000,000 views, and several hundred thousand comments regarding the FPS issues. Small minority. Thats why "views" are not counted by unique accounts. If I view this thread 200 times it adds 200 views to it. OP is right, Forum activity is always a minority. that doesn't mean however that there is any correlations to people happy with the game vesus those who are unsubscribing. However it is important to note Bioware has 50 some servers for NA alone and most are still full and experiencing queues at peak hours. So either those unhappy and unsubbing are a minority and a majority of people are playing and enjoying SWTOR, or they are unhappy and still playing. Either way the question has to be asked. If you hate the game and don't plan on continuing to play, why are you still here?
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Blackwater

01.03.2012 , 01:28 AM \| #185
Quote: Originally Posted by romandaemon Sure thing...they are still awesome quests, different dialogue options to pick on different play throughout, not to mention dark/light dialogue choices....that are all voiced over. Its pure bliss....I have 0 temptation to even try pvp or large group /time consuming content for about a year..... You know what choosing a light side or dark side option does for side quests? Nothing

Combinesd

01.03.2012 , 01:29 AM \| #186
Quote: Originally Posted by Captain_Failure Until you can argue your point without the three things I mentioned or resorting to subjective opinion then I'm afraid you have no right to try and counter my statement. In a proper debate the two parties do not resort to such tactics. Calling this game single player? Saying the UI is objectively terrible and no brackets are a bad thing when the statements themselves are objective opinion? Bringing up combat delay when a good gamer knows how to adapt to the playing field? I hate to tell you this since it will shatter your self important world view but this is not a "single player game," the UI is bad to you and the day I'll agree on no bracketing is the day I can't destroy a level 50 on my level 22 Operative, in melee, where your nightmare combat delay is supposed to hurt the most. Come to me with facts, then I'll take you seriously. This.

Gunryu

01.03.2012 , 01:29 AM \| #187
Quote: Originally Posted by Captain_Failure Until you can argue your point without the three things I mentioned or resorting to subjective opinion then I'm afraid you have no right to try and counter my statement. In a proper debate the two parties do not resort to such tactics. Calling this game single player? Saying the UI is objectively terrible and no brackets are a bad thing when the statements themselves are objective opinion? Bringing up combat delay when a good gamer knows how to adapt to the playing field? I hate to tell you this since it will shatter your self important world view but this is not a "single player game," the UI is bad to you and the day I'll agree on no bracketing is the day I can't destroy a level 50 on my level 22 Operative, in melee, where your nightmare combat delay is supposed to hurt the most. Come to me with facts, then I'll take you seriously. Considering many people have stated over and over that they will play for a few months until leveling gets boring and go to another game, it's fact. As for Combat delay.........BIOWARE ACKNOWLEDGES THAT IT'S AN ISSUE! As for the UI? I miss half of the chat because I can't see it due to it being at the upper part of my screen and if I try moving it, it overlaps something else......that is BAD Not single player? *** do I need another player for when I have my companion? Flashpoints and Heroics that I don't do because I wind up outleveling the zone I am in if I do them? Just because you can not see the faults in this game does not mean they do not exist!
You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new. - Steve Jobs

NightmanSpider

01.03.2012 , 01:30 AM \| #188
Quote: Originally Posted by NightfireFox My activity in the game is irrelevant. I am simply informing this disgruntled portion of the community that they are a disgruntled MINORITY, and to keep that in mind when they voice their criticisms. God forbid we try to improve the game by pointing out it's flaws. Maybe the game has a lot to fix, that'd explain why there are a lot of threads complaining about topics. Maybe forums aren't just for praising a game and actually serve as a tool for the community to use. We will voice our concerns for the game and as long as they are constructively critical, at least we can help the dev's understand what their audience is experiencing and try to make it a better game.

Asuka

01.03.2012 , 01:33 AM \| #189
Quote: Originally Posted by Gunryu Again.............What about those people that don't bother coming on and post what they find wrong and just leave without a peep? Do they not count? No because nobody tends to care that the person is leaving. Most MMOs have an exit poll when you unsub so you can tell them why you are canceling your sub so not to come here and instigate because it does as I said, tend to instigate flame wars.

Captain_Failure

01.03.2012 , 01:34 AM \| #190
Quote: Originally Posted by Gunryu Considering many people have stated over and over that they will play for a few months until leveling gets boring and go to another game, it's fact. I guess the endgame content doesn't exist? Well, it must not exist when it doesn't help perpetuate your bias. Quote: As for Combat delay.........BIOWARE ACKNOWLEDGES THAT IT'S AN ISSUE Yet you still complain like they haven't. Quote: As for the UI? I miss half of the chat because I can't see it due to it being at the upper part of my screen and if I try moving it, it overlaps something else......that is BAD Just because you look at the wrong part of the screen to see the chat window doesn't make the UI terrible. It just means you don't know were to look. Quote: Not single player? *** do I need another player for when I have my companion? Flashpoints and Heroics that I don't do because I wind up outleveling the zone I am in if I do them? You chose to play it solo. Chose. That doesn't mean other players weren't out there, playing it like what it is...an MMO. Quote: Just because you can not see the faults in this game does not mean they do not exist! While I admit that there are bugs in SWTOR that needs ironing out the things you speak of are only faults because you find fault with them. There is nothing objective here, only your opinion.

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