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Elites should be removed from all non Heroic/FP/Operations missions

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Elites should be removed from all non Heroic/FP/Operations missions

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HolyGigi
01.02.2012 , 09:58 AM | #81
So myself, a 27 year old adult, would have to lower myself to the comprehension level of a 10 year old because you're a bad parent?

She is 10 years old!!! Get her outside, get her into sports, playing with other girls... you know, care about how she develops as a human being?

How lazy can you possibly be? Get a 10 year old to play a MMO instead of developing her interests and show her the world basically. I seriously doubt that at that age and with such a shining example as a parent, her biggest problem is the elite bosses.

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SpirtikusTor
01.02.2012 , 10:04 AM | #82
Quote: Originally Posted by Shivetya View Post
Having to explain to a ten year old, let alone getting her brother to help her, that its not too hard doesn't cut it anymore. She; and for the most part her brother; are playing because games are supposed to be fun. While some will think ten is young with proper supervision the game is fine, she sees worse on cable and hears worse as school. That out of the way, far too many missions are stymieing her simple because of the elites involved. Her brother would never admit any problems but he is a bit more stubborn so eventually pushes his way past most if.

What I am getting to is that if she stops playing most likely the rest of us will too. She wants to do her character by herself (if I have to explain why you don't know young ladies) . While we can and do play together at times its a matter of timing. Leaving Christmas vacation and my timimg will be wholly different from theirs. There just isn't a point to the heroic mobs in the normal missions. They are only frustrating and not helping the story along. Of the four of us she does not do missions unless prodded but she will control the fate of four accounts.
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DaShuk
01.02.2012 , 10:25 AM | #83
My only issue with elites in normal game content is that to often they just drop credits...I'm selfish and want more gear drops, lol!

As for the OP, your kid is 10....tell her to go play outside, we have enough fat kids sitting inside all day playing xbox and videogames and adding to the childhood obesity issues.

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Shainra
01.02.2012 , 10:42 AM | #84
When I was a kid (10), I played games that were probably considered very inappropriate for my age. In fact, my online gaming started back in the good ol' days of MUDing, and I can assure you, the people who played those games were just as twisted as anything you'll see in this game, as content or in general chat... and back then there was no way to just turn it all off.

I played them and learned the emotional maturity required to deal with the things I experienced. Despite the references to sex, blood, violence, and drug and alcohol use depicted in those games (like this game) and the hundreds that came after, I turned into a fairly normal person.

All that said, if you truly believe your daughter has the maturity to be able to handle content and themes that are meant for 16+, then she should also have the maturity to either have the determination to figure things out on her own, or the maturity to ask for help without hurting her poor, childish pride. If she doesn't have either, then I can guarantee you, she doesn't have the emotional maturity to handle the content found in a game meant for people more than half a decade older than her. This coming from another woman who was once in her position.

If anything, you should be ashamed. You are teaching your daughter that it's okay to quit and give in, that it's okay not to try and improve herself. Video games are more than just simple entertainment, they are a lesson unto themselves. They teach persistence, social skills, reading comprehension, and much more. Instead, coach her, let her improve, and let her discover on her own the rewards she can earn from determination and ambition. Rather than teaching her that the world will bend over backwards for her... because I have news for you, it most definitely won't.

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eroscastaldi
01.02.2012 , 10:47 AM | #85
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KoranHorn
01.02.2012 , 10:49 AM | #86
While i understand your problem, I would be very disappointed if FP difficulty was lowered. FP's are designed to be a challenge for a group and that group has to work together. Groups who are not playing together should not be very successful. Additionally, when you make dungeons really easy, they all feel the exact same. The only thing that separates dungeons from each other (other then story and environment) is the mechanics of the encounters. When the dungeons are too easy, then mechanics are ignored and they all feel the same. No reason to interrupt spells, avoid AOE, kill adds....etc. Everything is the boring same thing when that happens. In fact, as at this time i have done most FP's up to Cademimu....they already are a bit too easy. Crowd control is rarely used and trash pulls are mostly all the same.

Difficulty is important. Flashpoints are not for everyone. The lady needs to learn to work with others for a common goal-good RL skills anyway

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RamasSoKehur
01.02.2012 , 10:51 AM | #87
*** was that post

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SithZigg
01.02.2012 , 12:35 PM | #88
Did you just try to compare me to a 10 year old? I find that particularly insulting. I think you will find that most people will have the patients and cognitive skills greater than that of a ten year old girl.
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scfs
01.02.2012 , 12:39 PM | #89
Quote: Originally Posted by HolyGigi View Post
So myself, a 27 year old adult, would have to lower myself to the comprehension level of a 10 year old because you're a bad parent?

She is 10 years old!!! Get her outside, get her into sports, playing with other girls... you know, care about how she develops as a human being?

How lazy can you possibly be? Get a 10 year old to play a MMO instead of developing her interests and show her the world basically. I seriously doubt that at that age and with such a shining example as a parent, her biggest problem is the elite bosses.
1 - People of all ages are getting stomped by the class quest lines in this game.
2 - Don't tell people how to raise their kids, its rude. If they are spending time together as a family, then good for them.

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KoranHorn
01.02.2012 , 01:15 PM | #90
Quote: Originally Posted by KoranHorn View Post
While i understand your problem, I would be very disappointed if FP difficulty was lowered. FP's are designed to be a challenge for a group and that group has to work together. Groups who are not playing together should not be very successful. Additionally, when you make dungeons really easy, they all feel the exact same. The only thing that separates dungeons from each other (other then story and environment) is the mechanics of the encounters. When the dungeons are too easy, then mechanics are ignored and they all feel the same. No reason to interrupt spells, avoid AOE, kill adds....etc. Everything is the boring same thing when that happens. In fact, as at this time i have done most FP's up to Cademimu....they already are a bit too easy. Crowd control is rarely used and trash pulls are mostly all the same.

Difficulty is important. Flashpoints are not for everyone. The lady needs to learn to work with others for a common goal-good RL skills anyway
I didn't read the OP carefully enough, apparently. I thought he was speaking of FP's/Heroic quests-not Class Quests.

Class quest difficulty seems fine to me. In fact, most quests are rather easy. A more challenging class quest is refreshing. You just have to use all your abilities. We have special cooldowns, stuns, interupts, and crowd control abilities for a reason. If you are not skilled/geared enough to handle it, then go back and do it when you are a level or two over. I have not had any issues on my trooper, BH, IA, Smuggler or Consular of varying levels.