Never seen a valid argument against the LFD

A same server LFG tool would be perfect and shut everyone up. If anyone doesn't want that then please tell me why.

I don't like cross-server LFD for PvE or PvP. However, it's also extremely unlikely that a feature will be outright removed from a game (like the PvP group tool), and it is far easier to campaign that something never be added (like the PvE group tool).

Argument 1- I guess it never occurred to you that you can identify and ignore/not play with ninjas, cry babies and general jerks...unless you are are randomly placed with them.

Argument 2- I'll agree with this one, but I don't think it was ever a big complaint.

Argument 3- Playing with people on your own server allows you talk to them and interact with them which in turn allows you to determine the people you want to continue to associate with. Again, being randomly placed with people you will never see again removes that possibility.

If you can't see how playing a large part of the non-solo game with absolute strangers that you will never see or hear from again doesn't hurt community there really is no hope for you.

P.S. LFD is only damaging if its cross server...

Experiences vary, for instance, I can pretty much say it has hurt the community.

As for LFD, well, in WoW, it would be a common sight to see someone who isn't a tank, join someone's group, and then that person queue as tank just so the other group member(s) get thrown into groups instantly, then the tank leaves.

Other common things include people needing items they don't need then leaving group (a lot worse on cross-realm), people (most notably tanks or healers) pulling monsters and leaving group, leaving the remaining members to die, and the general "I expect everyone in the group to know everything about everything" people.

Because of all above, I don't want LFD, unless action will be taken against people who take part in the above and other negative actions (I wouldn't be sad if those people were perma-banned, but I can see that as being a bit much ). I personally am doing just fine without LFD (I'm level 32 atm) and don't foresee any issues in the future that would be solved solely with LFD.

LFD's destroy communities.

You may not think that's valid, but I do. A community is more important to me than any other aspect of an MMO because that's what keeps people playing for years.

I know, I get it. You're not social. You sit in /general and spam LFG messages asking "LOL, wut community?"

You don't get it, I understand that, but that doesn't make my concerns less valid just because you don't care about other people and community.

I do care, and our opinions are no more or less valid than each others.

My WoW server used to be a really nice place. Friendly, people ran stuff all the time, big RP events, raid guilds took along less geared people once they had a place on farm just to give them a chance.

X-Realm BGs was the first knife in my server's gut.

Faction transfers were another.

Then LFD was like a mace to the back of the skull for Shadow Council.

Now the place is graveyard of people standing in the capital cities waiting for queues to pop.

I don't even want to see that happen again, that's why I will be against all of those things I mentioned.

Spamming LFG/LFM in the general chats or global chats does not make for a better community and does not count as socializing.

Never seen a valid argument against the LFD that I am willing to accept.


Above is what the title should have been.

it didnt kill wow, actually made wow even more popular. WOTK sold 2.5 million in 1 day, broke a lot of records.

i really dont know why they dont want lfd in this game...

But acting like an ***** on a small server gets you labelled as one.

I remember back in EQ there was a tank who knew the fights, was geared better than most and yet kept bouncing from guild to guild till eventually he had to leave his server.

Why? Because he acted so bad to the players around him that he was labelled as someone to avoid and the whole server did.

I like LFD tools but only as long as its not cross server.

You've probably never seen one because you automatically label any argument against one as invalid.