Never seen a valid argument against the LFD

I thought there already was a LFG mechanic for this game?

I played WOW from Feb 2005 - march 2011. i def noticed a change in the comunity when the LFG tool came out. if someone was being nasty the comunity made him / her a parahia and black listed them. Also it made it harder for lvling guilds to keep / recruit players as well. the only guilds that succeded were the raiding guilds.

if they ever do cave in to people that dont want to make an effort to find a group i hope they keep it server only.

Played WoW 2005-2011(2012 actually - cos my subscrib still is not over, yet I consider it to be final one). LFD DID hurt community. Even my server friends were'd rather to run 2-3 randoms instead of LFM. And I cant really blame them. I was lucky to have an RL friend-tank, though. Which made our randoms more comfortable since tank-heal know each other for ages and use skype.

First, I'd love to say, that even before LFD most of players were go on questing\doing things etc while wayting. It was never needed for all members to sit in the city - maximum one of them monitored city chat. And LFM tool let us go on same way we did with LFD with the only difference that leader had to keep an eye on those who signed for dungeons and choose what he needed.

Now on WoW people THEORETICALLY can make x-realm friends(via RID), it's just they don't. And even if they could - they'd have no chance to invite x-realm friend to party.

So my idea is that either make such a thing x-realm AND allow people to make something like "brothers in arms" list, if you liked person - you add him\her (possibly - mutual, with his\her agreement), and random has priority to those who are "white listed" and skip ones who are in "black list". It takes some time to manage lists - yes, it helps with a low population on the server - yes, it automates party gathering - yes. It makes you feel like running pure random bot runs - NO. If also more priority would go to same-server players - great.

But the way it works now in WoW - no way, a bad idea that sacrifices social part of a game for the sake of convinient UI. It's just AWFUL that players have to choose either local friends or fast party.

And what pray are people going to do when the wait to pop the timer is longet then 5-10 minutes? Claim the LFG is broken and we need to add cross server instancing.

Whoops there goes server relationships....

Sound familiar?

You can't quest and buddy someone from an alternate reality. Didn't work in WoW, doesn't work in Doctor Who (see Rose) and it won't work here.

That is why.

The community was always bad, I saw no changes at all really, All LFG really did was let people with limited time be able to get groups and play. Thats it.


It did not ruin any community.

Made recruiting harder.

My only complaint about WoW LFD is the teleport.

Seems to me that if they added a LFD tool, that if you didn't like it, you wouldn't have to use it. You could just run stuff with your guild or whisper people and ask them. Or still do it like now in chat (they could add a LFG channel). Seems to me it would be there for people to use who want to, who might otherwise have a hard time getting a group. Especially people who play off hours. And some people just don't like being in a guild, having guild commitments. They are willing to put up with the occasional nonsense.

That being said, there's no doubt it highlighted some of the worst aspects of the WoW community, but just like in WoW, if you don't like it, you don't have to use it. No one is ever forcing you to go that route.

And you know what? It might actually encourage people to form mature, well-behaved guilds and invite people who are of a like mind, just so they could bypass LFD.

I don't think the LFD ruined the WoW community. It was more the quick vending machine system they put in for their dungeons. It went from a game where wipes were expected (and were sometimes actually fun) and you had to work together to achieve something, to where if you ever wipe people started crying and pointing fingers. But that was a function of them making the dungeons too easy, so as to attract a younger and younger crowd. And with easy to get purples, even the most average player started believing he was superuberawesomesauce and everyone else a noob.

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Precisely. Remove the arbitrary restrictions from content. Allowing for accessibility of all the content should be priority number one. Having to every group member physically get to the instance is evident that accessibility was not a design concern. Quite the major let down considering the major advances made in the genre in the past decade. Why do customers need to go through so many tedious tasks to get to the enjoyment of the "game." It is a game right?

Nothing worse than being out on Hoth, then deciding to go to the FP. Perhaps you emergency shuttle pass? Well 18 hour cooldown, good thing you saved it. Getting back? Exit the FP, go through the main deck, go to your ship. Zone into your ship, select hoth. Exit ship, looong load onto the orbital station. Walk through the orbital station to ANOTHER shuttle. Take the shuttle to the base. Walk out of the lower base and wait for the giant elevator. Finally get on the elevator and you can get on your hover bike. Tell me, are there a few too many obstacles between the user and the game? I'd say there were a few... issues...

Nothing ruined anything. Wow is still going strong, the only reason why it's not played as much is because people are brunt out on it.



The Tools they gave us failed in other mmos, and will not work in this one.


Being able to log in sign up for a instance and 15-20 mins get into one. Faster for some classes. The system is amazing, and mmos can't really live without it. It brings more good to a game over bad.


Lets not even go into the whole instances thing we have going on, making group making even harder.


The only concern I saw someone said is black listing people who ninja. You can add him and leave when you see him. One flaw should not ruin it for everyone else.


LFG queue system will not ruin the game for people. It will save a lot of people time. Thats it. The community excuse is just dumb.