Why are people telling me to give this game more time?

Everyone raged on the BF3 forums about how sh*tty the game was. After week two and about a 1000mb patch, there was silence on the forums, because everyone was playing a "crappy" game

I know, its a different story with big-budget, blockbuster shooters, where it happens in the first 10 days, but if you make it a little less extreme, it applies to most games, especially MMOs

Ok just go back to WOW no one will miss you my friend, cheers.

Oh but someone will miss me. And the rest of us.

It's called Bioware not getting our subs.

You're also gonna be missing us once this game goes f2p cause there won't be any quality content added to it anymore.

Teehee.

Very well put OP.

My parent's car? I bought her car, and fyi, I had to take it back when it didn't run to perfection and they had to fix it, because it was new.

My house does not lose power, because I am on a hospital grid and have medical equipment in the house that requires full-time power 24/7, so the power company came out and set that up.

My internet never goes down, because it is a static OC-3 connection.

The car example you gave is akin to maintenance not to standard features and perfection that is expected from something brand new in a 2011 release.

With the number of people they had on day one it is odd that the game run as smooth as it did. WoW did not even have the numbers TOR did on day one.

I've been playing since early access and I haven't run into any game-breaking bugs. PvP warzones are smooth as can be, no stuttering. Go get yourself a computer that can run modern-day games.

Wow show's how much you know about Lucas Arts. They well not take this game Free to play, it well be shutdown before that happens. Bioware some time ago put out there that if they had 300k subs that game is doing good and if they had 500k there doing fantastic. An with them having over one million people playing right now odd's are they well have no problem hitting that 300-500k mark. I my self do not see them keeping a million but, more odd things have happen.

The problem isn't the bugs, that's to be expected. The problem is all the missing features that didn't require BW to be innovative whatsoever. They had all these games who had years to get polished that they could of referenced from, but they just seemed to have completely ignored key features from some of it. Which is quite baffling. Why move a step back when you could just go forward?

This game is not in a crappy state. If you think that, you have dropped all sense of perspective. The game is playable, relatively bug free compared to existing (and some "mature") MMOs, the servers are stable, etc. To get to "crappy," you would have to start evaluating subjective items.

The incentive for BW and EA is for the game to NOT be a flop. If people like the game and get their friends involved, then that equals more subscriptions as well as existing players paying longer. The case for TOR being a flop needs to be a little bigger than a few cancelling abilities.

Actually, in the MMO market, it will. Blizzard spent years fixing certain bugs and systems on WoW.

I don't know what you do or what level of familiarity you have with technology, but based on this I'm guessing you know absolutely nothing about computers, software, or anything related. I'm not going to try to educate you either as this post is getting long, but needless to say, just because a bug is identified, doesn't mean it CAN be fixed in a reasonable time period. Beta testing probably identified millions of bugs, all of which were on development builds. Each bug report has to be analyzed, compared to similar bugs for commonality, reproduced, and this is just to get on the list of bugs to be fixed. Then, the source of the bug has to be identified, among all of the possible sources, which in a massive client/server game could be dozens of possible sources. Then, if the offending piece of code has been identified, a plausible change must be coded and tested, and then all of the associated systems must be regression tested. That's if the programmer was lucky and the entire underlying system didn't need to be completely redesigned. Every step in this process requires a certain amount of documentation and paperwork. It all adds up.

This is one of the worst arguments about why bugs shouldn't be in a video game. Do you know how much this game would cost if video game developers had to meet the engineering safety standards of a product like an automobile or an automatic flight control system? Somewhere along the lines of 20-30 times the expense for the initial cost and probably 10-20 times for the monthly subscription. Also, expect the rate of content release to slow down to a crawl.

A personal example: On a good day, I can write somewhere around 500-1000 lines of code. I test as I write, but obviously not the entire product. The code I write isn't safety related. If it was, I would expect the amount to slow to 20-30 lines of code a day.

No one is suffering. Seriously. And yes, you're expecting too much. The current state of the art of the software industry has simply not yet come up with a way to accomplish what you are asking. Bioware is one of the best, and in my opinion, they've done an exceptional job thus far. You should give it some time, because no one has yet done it better and with their track record, BW should be able to overcome the problems you find distressing.