Why are people telling me to give this game more time?

Well the person I was talking to only talks boss fights where I was talking about group content as a whole.. Tank and Spank is where you dont need any other tactics.. Like in there MMORPGs if you didnt use thing like some kind of crowd control ability your group would die... Where with SWTOR you dont even really need crowd control abilities and it really doesnt even matter if the DPS takes aggro.. Its so easy you can just keep fighting through it with the healer being a little stressed.. Thats tank and spank..

I really, sincerely don't trust most posters on this board to understand what the difference is between engine-based bugs and non-engine based bugs that stem from features built over that engine.
I honestly don't trust most people here to understand anything at all about what designing, developing, testing and releasing a game like this involves to begin with.

I paid 60 dollars for this video game (a finished product) and found that it was riddled with bugs and stuttering PvP (I play as a 30 sniper and many times my abilities cancel for no reason, causing me to die and evently /ragequit). I get irritated when I get sold something thats not functional. Don't stop reading there please. I know how many of you like to stop reading negative opinions early.

I come on these forums to trying to find a reason why the game was released like this; no devs respond and people just tell me to "give it time"? According to some scholarly gentlemen on these forums, apparently MMOs are always released in a crappy state. Why not complain to the companies so that they stop being released in a crappy state? Wouldn't that make sense for our futures as gamers?

Maybe BioWare/EA does not have any interest in their customers and they made a Star Wars MMO because they knew it would sell even if it was a flop?

Maybe they are releasing a bunch of new content (e.g. http://www.swtor.com/blog/sneak-peek-james-ohlen) just as everyone's free month that came with their SWTOR Christmas present runs out in an attempt to catch a few of them for another month or two?

Maybe they added Starfox style "space combat" for a little extra PR?

I feel like BioWare/EA is doing just enough to slip by and make a profit. Hell, even when getting personal with a BioWare representative (see: http://www.reddit.com/r/swtor/commen...ager_for_star/) we still can't get a straight answer. It seems eventually is a popular word around here. What people need to understand is that "eventually" fixing a product is not going to cut it in a competitive market. I'm also reading that there are a number of fixes were stated in beta testing that were not fixed upon release. That is the most disappointing issue for me that leads me to believe BioWare/EA just used the beta as advertising and hoping to get people hooked before release. If bugs aren't fixed in beta, then when are they fixed? In engineering, you know what happens when mistakes are not found in beta stages of development and a product is released? PEOPLE DIE. (See: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35110966...erators-stick/)

Ok, well people may not die from this video game. They could waste $60, $80, $150, which is close.... I guess??.. No. Anyways.

So were my expectations too high when I expecting a video game on the shelf to be fully functional? Or should I always just wait a year after the release of an MMO to buy it? I want to know your guys opinions on this. I feel like companies should be held responsible when they rush products out the door like this and the customers are the ones that suffer.



(Also releasing a game without high textures??? I want what ever they were smoking.)

So you're talking about trash, heroic quests, and minor bosses. Wow, you're asking for a little much. Heroic quests aren't meant to rival flashpoints, for one thing. Trash is just that. And minor bosses are supposed to ramp up in difficulty up to the end boss. You're not going to have raid mechanic fights in every single pull. CC isn't going to be required (though it helps on big pulls and tough Heroics. Yes they do get harder the higher you go.)

Speaking of minor bosses in FP, they aren't all tank and spank either. The wookiee in Cademimu intermittently spawns waves of strong ugnaughts. Best way to deal with those is to move them into the bosses flamethrower. That's a non-tank and spank mechanic.

The first boss in Cademimu for that matter - Intermittently sics his robot on a random party member. Either needs to be kited or DPSed down fast.

Since the last patch, CC helps in the boarding party fight on Mandalorian Raiders, though it's not required. The first boss on that one is easier, too, if you keep the dogs away from the Mandalorian.

You're not going to get these kind of mechanics in Heroics because, simply, people wouldn't do them. The reward wouldn't warrant the effort. In flashpoints, though, the vast majority of boss fights are anything but tank and spanks.

I really, sincerely don't trust most posters on this board to understand what the difference is between engine-based bugs and non-engine based bugs that stem from features built over that engine.
I honestly don't trust most people here to understand anything at all about what designing, developing, testing and releasing a game like this involves to begin with.

lets do this.. Name MMORPG features in SWTOR other than the story telling where it has not been done before and done better by SWTOR...

I paid 60 dollars for this video game (a finished product) and found that it was riddled with bugs and stuttering PvP (I play as a 30 sniper and many times my abilities cancel for no reason, causing me to die and evently /ragequit).

Moddable gear. Companions.