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Criticism with Positive Ideas? Madness.

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Jett-Rinn
01.01.2012 , 12:11 PM | #181
Quote: Originally Posted by Cranberries View Post
Then I'm sorry.

I laughed at the social skills thing. It would make sense right, as my social score in SWTOR is 1, and I'm about 700 points from hitting social 2.
Look I really don't want an apology; just please stop acting so elitist and stop going overboard...you can make very good points without it.
No one hates Star Wars as much as "Star Wars fans"

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Mishmashmoo
01.01.2012 , 12:13 PM | #182
Constructive and honest thread. AND yet the fanboys still rush to defend the game despite the coherent and rational nature of the post and its obvious truth.

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Cranberries
01.01.2012 , 12:15 PM | #183
Quote: Originally Posted by Jett-Rinn View Post
Look I really don't want an apology; just please stop acting so elitist and stop going overboard...you can make very good points without it.
The points I raised require a modicum of elitism, you need to be part of the 'elite' to post about such issues so early on. You can't post about hardmodes if you haven't cleared them, and you can't post about introductory raiding if you haven't cleared them.

I would enjoy it very much if every raid instance was like WoWs Sunwell, but that is never going to happen so I am happy accepting what most developers develop, as long as it is a quality product of succifient quantity. For this tier, however, both quality and quantity are lacking.

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LordIske
01.01.2012 , 12:19 PM | #184
Quote: Originally Posted by Cranberries View Post
You effectively called me a lair.

I may be an elitist. I may insult people who I consider bad. I may call people every name under the sun, but I do not lie. Ever.
He never called you a liar. You may be good at raiding but your reading comp and people skills seem to be lacking as evident by some of your post in this thread. I think it is you who should apologize to him at this point. (EDIT: you did apologize for the record)

Its stuff like this that has derailed what would have otherwise been a decent thread. Your attitude overshadows any valid points you made and makes people not want to care about what you have to say. In this case the guy was even praising your accomplishments and you still talked down to him. You nee to mellow out a bit there.

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Quineverre
01.01.2012 , 12:21 PM | #185
you probably think this song is about you
dont you, dont you
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Tokeee
01.01.2012 , 12:21 PM | #186
Quote: Originally Posted by Cranberries View Post
You can't talk about something you haven't experienced.

I've experienced a lot of PvP in SWTOR, and I've experienced the cutting edge of raiding in SWTOR. Most people have not. I'm labelling the problems, and methods of resolution. Do you think I have less credibility than some level 10 who says "raiding is hard"? :/
This game doesn't have raiding yet.

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Megyskermike
01.01.2012 , 12:24 PM | #187
"I do not care about small bugs that stop some level 23 Sith Marauder from jumping from 1 hill to another, that's irrelevant."

MMOs are about the end game content….

That's subjective, you're suggesting that the problems you're facing are "obviously" in more need of fixing. I understand you're an experienced player and endgame could certainly use some fixes, but don't act like an elitest *** hat. Bioware will make those decisions, not you or your guild - otherwise - good/informative post.

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Jett-Rinn
01.01.2012 , 12:24 PM | #188
Quote: Originally Posted by Cranberries View Post
The points I raised require a modicum of elitism, you need to be part of the 'elite' to post about such issues so early on.
No they really don't. I have seen many elite players from guilds like Paragon Something Wicked and Fierce and how they present issues and it isn't done the way you do it.

Having actually talked to most of these developers face to face I can tell you, that they are not going to take you seriously acting the way you do. I actually saw Daniel Erickson tell someone with your exact attitude; that this wasn't that type of game and they weren't going for the hyper competitive mean spirited attitude that was in WoW's end game.

Now you can make a snarky comment you can disbelieve me or you can leave your attitude at the door...but you may want to consider how you are representing your guild on these forums.
No one hates Star Wars as much as "Star Wars fans"

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brusthoden
01.01.2012 , 12:28 PM | #189
Yeah stopped reading after i did it first thing too "Get A Life" and girls don't play MMO's! If your doing all that stuff already and the game is only 2 weeks old you did it wrong! So start over and do it right this time. this game was made for the average gamer not the no life loser so stop complaining it wasnt made for you it was made for the rest of us still enjoying it.
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Cranberries
01.01.2012 , 12:29 PM | #190
Quote: Originally Posted by brusthoden View Post
Yeah stopped reading after i did it first thing too "Get A Life" and girls don't play MMO's! If your doing all that stuff already and the game is only 2 weeks old you did it wrong! So start over and do it right this time. this game was made for the average gamer not the no life loser so stop complaining it wasnt made for you it was made for the rest of us still enjoying it.
I have a life, thank you very much. I raid 2 days a week, the rest of the week I can do whatever I like with my time. Including doing university dissertation material in between telling people I have no life, I infact do have a life.

This is the attitude that kills games right here, "you did something fast so you have no life."