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Obi-Wan .VS. Anakin


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ozirizo
12.31.2011 , 08:45 PM | #21
Soresu > Shien / Djem So.

Anytime.
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LordMerrick
01.01.2012 , 11:23 AM | #22
bump ...

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DrDismemberment
01.01.2012 , 11:35 AM | #23
You seem to think that there is logic in "those movies". Bad idea. Anyhow "he" needed a dramatic conflict between them and he still needed Anakin to get suited up. Also Anakin at this point would have probably killed Obi-Wan if he won. So for this fight "he" he had Obi-Wan > Anakin. Everything about those movies sucked, well the third one was tolerable to a degree. Also now that I think of it Vader implies in the original that Anakin defeated him at there last meeting.
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DrDismemberment
01.01.2012 , 11:40 AM | #24
Also Obi-Wan is 1 Smart 2 Taught Anakin. And we all know that at that moment at the end the fight Anakin was mind-controlled by a specific hare. Who suggested that he should "DO A BARREL ROLL!!"
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Rhyltran
01.01.2012 , 11:47 AM | #25
Quote: Originally Posted by LordMerrick View Post
I have never been able to figure this out. All through the movies Anakin displays superior skill to Obi-Wan, both in swordplay and command of force. In one of the movies obi agreed that anakin saved his life 7 times.

Anakin prevailed over dooku 1 on 1 when obi-wan was clearly no match for dooku, even with the benefit of 2 against 1.

Ani goes dark and is supposed to gain power and skill at an accelerated rate ( yoda in movie V says the dark side is faster) and Ani begins to reflect dark side changes in his appearance only hours after falling to the dark side.

And then suddenly: at the end of the 3rd movie ani and obi duel for hours and obi-wan eventually defeats him? At one point in the duel they both used force push against each other and neither one of them could gain the upper hand?

What the heck happened here?? Ani was clearly the superior warrior until these two fight each other.
It's explained in the novelization. In reality it's possible Anakin wouldn't have defeated Dooku one on one. First off Maakashi is a great counter to Soresu. Second, Dooku realized he was being replaced. He thought he was the one to ascend Sidious. He realized he was betrayed. He was nothing. Thereby losing his will to fight. This combined with Anakin giving in to his hatred enabled him to overpower Dooku.

Anakin wasn't thinking with his head in his final battle with Obi Wan. He was angry. He was pissed off. He was still the superior swordsman, however, as he was pushing Obi Wan Kenobi back the entire time. It also helps that Obi Wan was the best there was at Soresu, a defensive art, and had a great idea on how Anakin fights. This enabled him to hold him off long enough to get the high ground. Not to mention he was likely fighting harder due to knowing everything hinged upon his fight with Anakin whereas Yoda fought with Sidious.

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oriaphyn
01.01.2012 , 11:50 AM | #26
When they were fighting near the lava I always wondered why they weren't spamming Force Push at each other to push each other into the lava for instant win.

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Rhyltran
01.01.2012 , 11:52 AM | #27
Quote: Originally Posted by oriaphyn View Post
When they were fighting near the lava I always wondered why they weren't spamming Force Push at each other to push each other into the lava for instant win.
Last time it ended with them both being blasted backwards. That doesn't seem like a good option.

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Anthya
01.01.2012 , 12:00 PM | #28
As Windu alludes to in the novelisation, Obi-Wan was the greatest master of Soresu the Jedi Order had seen in generations.

It was this mastery that allowed him to defend himself long enough for Anakin's impetuous nature to cause Anakin to make a critical error.

All the power and skill in the world means absolutely nothing if you lose the psychological battle.

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Wolfninjajedi
01.01.2012 , 12:00 PM | #29
Quote: Originally Posted by Rhyltran View Post
Last time it ended with them both being blasted backwards. That doesn't seem like a good option.
Plus the 2nd time it happening the same way? Don't really think so, it might go in Anakin's favor if they attempted another force push duel. Anakin was going at Obi-Wan like a raging bantha, he wasn't wearing down at all.
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Rhyltran
01.01.2012 , 12:11 PM | #30
Quote: Originally Posted by Wolfninjajedi View Post
Plus the 2nd time it happening the same way? Don't really think so, it might go in Anakin's favor if they attempted another force push duel. Anakin was going at Obi-Wan like a raging bantha, he wasn't wearing down at all.
Well, depends. Obi Wan had the most powerful Force Push in the order. Anakin, however, was able to create a draw with his sheer power.