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Waves allow power players to gang casual players

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mandrillagon
12.13.2011 , 07:26 PM | #21
Quote: Originally Posted by Dalmac View Post
Problem with waves, you allow the power players (that have no life and sit their waiting on preorder release dates) to advance 20lvls before the casual player ever gets on.

So when the casual players are trying to level we are getting ganged by the 30+s that we have no chance in heck of defeating. Awesome idea to screw the casual players, and get the power players that much more ahead of the rest of us. That will not kill the game for the casual players. We are 80% of the people that you hope will still play your game one day while getting ganged by these power players.
With the exploit power pvpers are already at level 50 and gaining godly amounts of lewt/battlebags. Once Bioware fixes the exploit the new waves of twinks will be ganked long and hard by the people gaining on the exploit now.

http://www.swtor.com/community/showt...t=9301&page=56

1) Group of co-ordinated players all queue up for a warzone at the same time and are placed in the same shard.

2) WZ starts and thus is removed from the list so that people still in the queue will be placed in the next available shard.

3) After a brief period of time, a specified number of people drop out, and the rest wait for the shard to close.

4) .....rinse and repeat.

5) Profit.

Server population has nothing do to with it, nor would cross-server WZ have anything to do with taking care of the problem.

As for catching them.....BW trawls the database for anyone over level 20 after, say 12 hours, and then trawls those characters for activity levels. Believe it....if Turbine could catch the skirmish exploiters with all that buggy programming, BW will get these guys.

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hulgarth
12.13.2011 , 07:26 PM | #22
Quote: Originally Posted by Solar View Post
I'm casual player; and in first wave having turned in code early. So the ssumption is false.
most casual players are casual because they have jobs, they are also the people who can lay down $120 for CE back in July.. The hardcore players were likely playing other games in July and didnt even consider the EGA, most hardcore players wouldnt buy the game based on name back in July they were more likely to wait try beta then pre order so honestly I think if anything its the opposite as the OP but honestly you cant really stereotype any1

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Kunovega
12.13.2011 , 07:28 PM | #23
Quote: Originally Posted by Munx View Post
Oh yeah cause that totally nullifies his point, someone else would have just posted it instead...

If you are gonna argue against something, atleast use sem-valid arguements.
OP is not valid anyway:

new servers are coming, choose a fresh one with no high lvls

or

dont play on pvp servers

or

you do realize even without early access, someone who plays all the time would have eventually out leveled the so called casual one anyway right? kinda regardless of when either of them started

so really its an issue for a grand total of 7 days? and one that can be avoided easily with even a hint of common sense?

i swear the internet really brings out the gibbering idiots, they just post without thinking first
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HazardOOI
12.13.2011 , 07:29 PM | #24
As if this wouldn't be the case within a week of any everybody-at-once launch ever? The problem is not the staggered access, it's the mechanics of high levels going to starter zones (assuming you think there is a problem, idc).

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Kyrinic
12.13.2011 , 07:30 PM | #25
They can't go to starter planets...There is no cross faction until Tat.

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Xatheria
12.13.2011 , 07:31 PM | #26
Actually the hardcore players are racing to 50 and couldn't be bothered to go back and gank your lowbie zones thanks
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Stuffedduck
12.13.2011 , 07:31 PM | #27
Quote: Originally Posted by Dalmac View Post
Problem with waves, you allow the power players (that have no life and sit their waiting on preorder release dates) to advance 20lvls before the casual player ever gets on.

So when the casual players are trying to level we are getting ganged by the 30+s that we have no chance in heck of defeating. Awesome idea to screw the casual players, and get the power players that much more ahead of the rest of us. That will not kill the game for the casual players. We are 80% of the people that you hope will still play your game one day while getting ganged by these power players.
So ... If there wouldn't be any sort of early access and everyone would start the 20th to level up ... and there is that one guy who buys the game end of December with his Xmas money and starts to play and is getting 'ganked' by the higher levels ... what would you say to him?

Should have bought the game earlier? Shouldn't play on a pvp server?


And I dare you to ever attack one of my toons, as I am even more casual than you can ever be ...

Are the waves and the staggered early access annoying to those who wait? - Yes

Are they creating any kind of 'unfair' imbalance people couldn't encounter playing this game even if early access never existed? - NO

Don't know if 'server firsts' exist (like first to reach 400 artifice as example), but if you care about that stuff you're not a member of the casual 80%.

... just saying.

And the people playing today aren't the power players (some maybe) but mainly those who were ok to dump money into a game they didn't really know anything about and smart enough to redeem the code they received.

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Gerandar
12.13.2011 , 07:31 PM | #28
Quote: Originally Posted by wilsonstone View Post
Yet I doubt you'd have posted this if you had gotten in today.
because people cant alt tab while playing to laugh at the forum goers

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Meluna
12.13.2011 , 07:34 PM | #29
Greetings, everyone. We already have a discussion thread dedicated to talking about invite waves. If you'd like to share your thoughts, you'll find the discussion thread here:

http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=6488

We're going to close this thread and ask that this discussion continue in the existing thread, so we can keep the conversation a little better consolidated. Thank you!