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Just copy Dark Age of Camelot RVR

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Just copy Dark Age of Camelot RVR

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Shadanwolf
12.31.2011 , 05:39 AM | #1
DARK AGE OF CAMELOT is the best design ever for realm vs realm conflict(persistent/24/7).If there's any question about how to develop the realm vs realm conflict portion of the game(and there seems to be A LOT ) just copy DAOC's system. It's the gold standard. Bar none the best ever devised. Once you've mastered...and I mean mastered your understanding of their genius...then you can improve it .This needs to be done YESTERDAY.

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Weeber_OWE
12.31.2011 , 05:41 AM | #2
You need 3 realms for that. That's how they made it work , with only 2 realms 1 will outnumber the other one and just continue to win everything, the 3rd realm balances it all out .

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Shadanwolf
12.31.2011 , 05:48 AM | #3
3 realms is better than 2 granted. BUT 2 realms following DAOC's design is a heck of a lot better that anything I've seen or heard about in SWTOR.This has been a weakness all through beta and still remains ignored. A significant segment of players demands GREAT not mediocre RVR.

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Roceh
12.31.2011 , 05:50 AM | #4
the way the mechanics are atm, ilum will just be an epic farm area - tuesday may be a chance of pvp due to the sheer numbers going for the weekly - mutual co-operation may break down

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KorwinOfAmber
12.31.2011 , 05:52 AM | #5
You realize that PvP is SWTOR is made by Mythic? Which is creators of DAOC, and later WAR (with 2 factions)? So probably they make current PvP based on their own prior expiriences and understanding of how pvp should work?

You want to teach creators of DAOC how PvP should be "DAOC like" ?

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Shurax
12.31.2011 , 05:53 AM | #6
Really a sad state how BADLY they design the PvP part of AAA MMO's.

If you consider develepmont costs, a working PvP system costs pretty much NOTHING, and keeps people playing for years.
But this crap won't hold people for more than 6 months.

Very disappointed how little they did fix from end stages of beta till now.

I haven't even read anything about the Valor cap yet, I bet in a month people will have hit the cap. And it's like in Warhammer where you can't gain anymore points.

Rather than doing it the DAoC way, where there is no cap and it is just for motivational purposes.

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Shadanwolf
12.31.2011 , 05:58 AM | #7
I played DAOC on and off for 10 years.My wife still plays almost every day.The game has a fantastic system.Unfortunately Jacobs demanded every designer be lobotomized before the design of WAR.

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Shurax
12.31.2011 , 06:03 AM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by KorwinOfAmber View Post
You realize that PvP is SWTOR is made by Mythic? Which is creators of DAOC, and later WAR (with 2 factions)? So probably they make current PvP based on their own prior expiriences and understanding of how pvp should work?

You want to teach creators of DAOC how PvP should be "DAOC like" ?
You realize that you don't know ****? So tell me how many developers of DAoC worked on this game? And even if a couple of the ORIGINAL ones worked for Bioware doesn't mean they could do what they wanted.

The only person/persons who had ANY clue in DAoC were the ones who created the RvR system.
The fat guy in the chair thought it was a good idea too add crappy PvE to daoc, which was required to compete in PvP and after this the game died.

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Shortcake
12.31.2011 , 06:06 AM | #9
Quote: Originally Posted by KorwinOfAmber View Post
You realize that PvP is SWTOR is made by Mythic? Which is creators of DAOC, and later WAR (with 2 factions)? So probably they make current PvP based on their own prior expiriences and understanding of how pvp should work?

You want to teach creators of DAOC how PvP should be "DAOC like" ?
mythic died long ago, saying mythic worked on swtor is just a PR stunt, ilum is a bad joke and so is swtor world pvp

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Aerodi
12.31.2011 , 06:11 AM | #10
I really wanted some kind of RvR as well, but as others pointed out, the population imbalance will probably mean any pvp, even territory control, will have to be instanced. Global Agenda style ava conquest could work.

Anyone else notice how overwhelmingly the population went to the PvP servers during early access and launch? That should say something.