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You Can't Change Your Advanced Class!?!?!

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You Can't Change Your Advanced Class!?!?!

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Durzaka
Old 12.29.2011 , 11:49 PM | #31
Quote: Originally Posted by Arkhias View Post

TL;DR: Advanced classes are NOT identical to the traditional classes in other MMOs. Stop deluding yourself that they are.


Play an operative and Sniper or a Shadow and Sage and tell me those aren't different classes.
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Silent-Killa
Old 12.29.2011 , 11:59 PM | #32
someone get this man some diapers

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OklahomaSooner
Old 12.30.2011 , 02:33 AM | #33
I would love to change my Merc to a Powertech, and I figured this out around like 26 (I'm 29 right now IIRC) so I can't really go back at this point.

I would really like a one time only per character of switching your advanced class. I don't see any downside to this, and it will only make people happier.

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Klaxy
Old 12.30.2011 , 02:58 AM | #34
While i agree people shouldn't be allowed to change there advanced class at will, i think it would be perfectly reasonable to allow people to try both out before finally picking one, either from 10-15 or 10-20 they could allow you try both before finally choosing one, or say when you get your ship.

edit-I also have to say most of you sound like something crawled up inside you and died, try not to be so angry about things posted on forums, its not good for you.

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Nitewolfe
Old 12.30.2011 , 03:36 AM | #35
Quote: Originally Posted by Arkhias View Post
Idiotic logic.

I don't know of any MMOs where two "different" classes have 75% of the EXACT same abilities/spells.
Actual its not 75% its 1/3 the abilities shared

Take trooper
You have trooper base
You have commando ac
You have vanguard ac.
So only 1 out of 3.

If they ever do put in AC swapping it should revert your character to level 10.

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LilTikiBoy
Old 12.30.2011 , 03:57 AM | #36
Quote: Originally Posted by OklahomaSooner View Post
I would love to change my Merc to a Powertech, and I figured this out around like 26 (I'm 29 right now IIRC) so I can't really go back at this point.

I would really like a one time only per character of switching your advanced class. I don't see any downside to this, and it will only make people happier.
Until the people that use it decide they liked their original one better and come back here to ***** more.

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JediMB
Old 12.30.2011 , 05:27 AM | #37
Quote: Originally Posted by OklahomaSooner View Post
I would love to change my Merc to a Powertech, and I figured this out around like 26 (I'm 29 right now IIRC) so I can't really go back at this point.

I would really like a one time only per character of switching your advanced class. I don't see any downside to this, and it will only make people happier.
I'm playing Powertech, and I'm really jealous of the Mercenary's crowd control and high-damage abilities, but I wouldn't want to switch. I made an informed decision when I picked my AC, because I knew what sort of role I wanted to play.

But, hey, that's just me. I think going from a Mercenary to a Powertech at lv.30-ish would mean you've lost 20 levels of getting used to how you play your class. Just imagine getting into a level 50 flashpoint with a Powertech tank, only to find out that he was a Mercenary up until yesterday, and has zero experience with his new AC. :P
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VanorDM
Old 12.30.2011 , 11:22 AM | #38
Quote: Originally Posted by Arkhias View Post
TL;DR: Advanced classes are NOT identical to the traditional classes in other MMOs. Stop deluding yourself that they are.
Again you clearly haven't actually played the game yet. Because you simply have no clue what you're talking about.

The difference in play style between Gunslinger and Scoundrel is huge, bigger then the difference between two different classes in some MMO's.

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Wismac
Old 12.30.2011 , 12:21 PM | #39
I like others missed the part in-game, where it was stated the advanced class choice was so permanent, I thought of it more like 'specs' in wow, where you could re-do those choices.

And to argue against people saying 'Wow' didn't let you change from X class to Y class did they?

I ask you this.

Doesn't Wow let you change from say a 'Holy - Priest' to a 'Shadow - Priest' two entirely different classes to play?

I feel that the advance class in ToR is pretty much the same. Heck every class, shares a 'spec tree' with it's sister class. IE: an Op and a Sniper are both still an Agent, with only 5 unique spec trees, since they both share the 'Lethality' tree.

They really should just have the 5 trees available and change the 'class' name if you want based on the spec tree. But since that's such a huge fundamental change to the system, allowing us to re-spec to a different advance class of our base class shouldn't be too much to ask.

Gate it behind a 1million cred or something to 'deter' it. But making me re-play all the same class mission for an alt, just sucks.

I love the game, but this is one thing I really dislike about bioware's design.

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MNWolf
Old 12.30.2011 , 12:29 PM | #40
It's spelled out clearly, but I think the game would benefit from two things:

1) Some kind of optional training room mode before you choose. The option to go into a phased room and test out key abilities against some kind of practice droids to see what it feels like to do combat as an operative vs. as a sniper, or as an assassin vs. a sorcerer. Could be a quest that, if you're testing out operative, might have you heal a few droids for 20 second or sneak and backstab three targets. If you want to test sniper, maybe the test has you, I dunno, use some new sniper abilities to hold a cover position against charging attackers for 20 seconds (never played either, so fuzzy on the details).

2) After you click on an AC to select it, you should get a box that pops up that says "Are you sure? This is unchangeable after you select this," the way some games have when you're about to turn in a really hard to get token for armor.

Just some thoughts.