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Hard to Find Groups for Flashpoints/HEROIC

Mazikeen's Avatar

12.29.2011 , 02:49 PM | #21
Quote: Originally Posted by Erazimus View Post
I've done this, 30 minutes later, doesn't work, let me describe how much it doesn't work.

I've *NEVER* done a *SINGLE* heroic *EVER*, that's right, I'm level 24 and I've never done a single heroic in my life, period, and I'm on a FULL server.
Most people your level are trying to level their first character. Flashpoints are fun but annoying. I personally haven't done anything past Athiss simply because it's not worthwhile for me right now. Yes, there is a story to each but I have plenty of time to see that once I have a 50 under my belt

This is the first month of a major, long-awaited MMO. This sort of thing happens
"Someone ever tries to kill you, you try to kill 'em right back!" - Malcolm Reynolds

Julisha's Avatar

12.29.2011 , 02:56 PM | #22
The problem with most people is they are lazy, it's easier to spam LFG all night long than actually be proactive and start the group themselves.

Like it was said earlier, open the lfg tool, take a look who is lfg, send tells, that works. Spam general chat once or twice with "forming a group for X FP". I often see many LFG for X and yet no one takes the initiative of forming a group...

Be proactive, not reactive

Dvang's Avatar

12.29.2011 , 03:06 PM | #23
I have leveled four PCs to level 13(ish) on Krath. I have never had to wait more than a couple minutes to get others to join for any or all FP/Heroics. This is even purely using General chat to say "LFG for ..." or "LFM for ..."

I'm not generally talking just 1 person, I usually get full groups of 4 and tend to have to turn away people because the group is full.

So, your experience doesn't match with mine ... although I admit mine is all lower-level stuff so far.

Hal_Narcowitz's Avatar

12.29.2011 , 04:01 PM | #24
You're playing an MMO, OP. That means you're going to have to be social and even lead at times.

How to get a group:

1. Send out a LFG/LFM "FP Name" in general. Do this every 2 - 3 minutes.

2. Meanwhile - Do a /who and start with the people flagged LFG. Send each of them /w messages asking if they'd like to join you for a heroic. Be polite and nice at all times. Consider helping them get the quest for the FP if they don't have it yet but are willing to do it.

3. If they don't want to do a FP, then you should tell them "Thank you anyways, good luck!". You'll likely see them again in the future and you want to make sure they remember you're someone worth grouping with.

4. Once you get a group together, add them all to your friends list. Regardless of how this run works out, these are the folks you'll want to ask first in the future if they're on.

5. Be nice in your runs, and take the lead. Remember to say "hi!" as people join the group. Chat people up a little. Make people feel like you're looking to make friends, not treat them like NPCs.

6. Roll a healer if you can, as most players right now are running DPS. I made this mistake at level 10 (when they said "double bladed light sabers" my wife and I were like "OMG YES!". Now I wish I had rolled a sage because healers are harder to find).

7. Do your best in the instance. Don't ever nerdrage people or criticize them. Offer them some help if they need it, but don't tell people how to play in a brusque way. If they are truly very bad at the game, just note that on your friends list that they need to be carried (don't delete them off your friends list, you won't remember this info later).

8. If you can't complete the run after several wipes (I'd say at 5-6 on a boss you might be stuck), then tell everyone in a very positive way "Hey guys, I think we might be stuck on this one but I've had a lot of fun with you. Let's call it a run and please add me to your friends list." Remember, you're playing to have fun and so are they.

9. Build that friends list and your rep as well. Join a guild and be the person who organizes runs - even set up a time to do them with others. It takes the focus off getting "lootz" and towards having fun with others.

10. The game literally just launched, so a lot of people are just questing right now and may be a little shy. Give it some time for the community to form up. It will happen, but it takes time. Help it grow by being a positive influence.

Good luck and have fun!!

Soluss's Avatar

12.29.2011 , 04:12 PM | #25
Quote: Originally Posted by Erazimus View Post
When I say 'hard' I mean impossible, I don't have 1 hour to spend begging for a group. I have maybe 15 minutes tops, after 15 minutes I am forced to play Hutball for the zillionth time or go and do the easier quests, and guess what? I am now too high for all of the quests I go back to, +5 XP, gee thanks a lot, that +5 really encourages me to want to go back and help lower players, that +5 XP really encourages me to want to go back to the planets I didn't finish every quest on, because that level 16 armor piece is really needed for me at level 24, of course I only did the quest to do the quest, and for a 16 armor piece not for XP.


FLOATING TEXT OVER YOUR HEAD... trust me tons of players ignore, or have the world chat box minimized, even PM'ing them is overkill, I don't have time to PM every single individual, if I hat text over my head they'd see my request if they were right there, and for social purposes in general this would be an amazing leap in the right direction.

EASIER WAY TO FIND GROUPS, I'm tired of ranting, I just want an easier way to do this, you come up with the solutions.

OH YEAH, AND GET RID OF +5 XP RIPOFF, Give us 1K XP at least sheesh. Even 1k is nothing compared to Huttball so give us something, a box to roll for armor of our level. Trust me, it's worthless compared to modded oranges anyway, it would at least encourage higher players to go back and help lower players, but this doesn't exist, try checking out the game and let me know if you see this ever happening.

Why is it so hard for people to find some like minded individuals and form/join a guild. I just dont get it. I am in a guild of a great group of people that I met in Rift. There are probably 20 or more active members of all types of playstyles on at any given time. None of us have trouble putting groups together.

Soluss's Avatar

12.29.2011 , 04:14 PM | #26
Quote: Originally Posted by Mazikeen View Post
Most people your level are trying to level their first character. Flashpoints are fun but annoying. I personally haven't done anything past Athiss simply because it's not worthwhile for me right now. Yes, there is a story to each but I have plenty of time to see that once I have a 50 under my belt

This is the first month of a major, long-awaited MMO. This sort of thing happens
The instances provide very good xp. They also provide very good gear. Also they are very fun with a few exceptions. To do them at level 50, unless you are going to just do the heroic versions, is a waste of time IMO.

Graburr's Avatar

12.29.2011 , 04:33 PM | #27
Quote: Originally Posted by Vren View Post
OP I feel for you but you wont get anywhere on these forums with the astounding brown nosery that goes on
right, because arguing about a system that obviously works (else there would NO groups at all) is brown nosery. do you even know what it MEANS?

this is a mmo, and while it tries to cater to a LOT of players, it can't hold hand of every one of them - even if every one of them has the urge to create a new thread instead of using an existing thread...

somehow it's hard to imagine that people are unable to find THREE other people during peak time when we can find 20+ people for the tatooine worldboss at 1am.

Tynaris's Avatar

12.29.2011 , 05:04 PM | #28
Grouping can be a little hit/miss right now... but using /who to find LFG flagged people *does* work most of the time in my experience. Don't forget to turn on your own flag.

I have found several people to group with that way, and Heroic 4 areas are accessible with enough levels and/or companions. Flash-points are excellent if you've got guildmates to arrange runs with, but don't ignore them if you don't. FPs make the game feel much more like Star Wars, and are worth the extra effort to gather up some folks. Overall, this game is very accessible to small groups because of the companion mechanic.

Angelesis's Avatar

12.30.2011 , 12:36 PM | #29
I have to agree, I'm lvl 46 and I haven't done a single flashpoint to this date. All I ever see is LFG flashpoint spammed in chats for hours. the combination of sharding and failed mmo design is apparent.

scfs's Avatar

12.30.2011 , 12:38 PM | #30
Quote: Originally Posted by Trucegore View Post
Go to where all the flash points are ( They are all in one location ). Flag yourself LFG, and set your comment to the one you want.

been there done that 3 hours of no xp just to try to have a 20-30 minute flashpoint.

Pretty sure thats not a very good profit.