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Why is the Esseles Model for Flashpoints unique to itself?

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Why is the Esseles Model for Flashpoints unique to itself?

Phelanar's Avatar

12.29.2011 , 11:15 AM | #21
Quote: Originally Posted by KerythFOS View Post
What lvl range is Taral V? Cuz if it is even close to Esseles style, I'm looking forward to it
Taral V is in the 32-34 range. 20 levels is a long time between good, story driven flashpoints, but it was really nice to do. It's still IMO not as good as the Esseles, but it's close and a huge step up from the others in between.
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KerythFOS's Avatar

12.29.2011 , 11:18 AM | #22
Quote: Originally Posted by Phelanar View Post
Taral V is in the 32-34 range. 20 levels is a long time between good, story driven flashpoints, but it was really nice to do. It's still IMO not as good as the Esseles, but it's close and a huge step up from the others in between.
Thanks for the info. Gives me something to look forward to at least

Farabee's Avatar

12.29.2011 , 12:05 PM | #23
I did Directive 7 up to Bulwark last night (who is ridiculously overtuned) and theere were lots of convos in that one as well. Good story. Wish I could have finished it but our group broke up due to failing at Bulwark.
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Perfectcircle's Avatar

12.29.2011 , 12:33 PM | #24
Stop QQ'ing for ppl that like to space their way through content.

You're able to do what you want let them do what they want. They put the space bar option in the game for a reason.

Trucegore's Avatar

12.29.2011 , 01:59 PM | #25
Quote: Originally Posted by Ravenger View Post
this arguement has become somewhat invalid now.
so just because he's 50 right now doesnt mean he rushed...
Yes it does.

Darth_Vampirius's Avatar

12.30.2011 , 12:14 AM | #26
Quote: Originally Posted by KerythFOS View Post
Between 3 beta weekends and my current batch of characters, I've run the Esseles a bunch of times. On my main, I've run every flashpoint up through Manalorian Raiders.

In the Esseles, there were plenty of conversations. It was great. Not just a string of corridors full of mobs leading to bosses.

What I want to know is why was this model dropped after the first flashpoint? Every flashpoint I've done since is run run, kill mobs, run, kill boss, rinse and repeat. The same old same old instance model.
It's the same for Sith.

Black Talon you can play with 1 friend and take your time, get social and alignment points, and the whole thing is a blast.

Hammer Station? Boring.
Athiss? Boring.
Mando Raiders? Boring.

Foundry? Cool story, bro. Kind of long. Still can't be duoed and still has no alignment points.
Collocoid War Games? Broken.
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Jazhara's Avatar

12.30.2011 , 01:34 AM | #27
Simply passing by to pitch in to the OP:

I completely agree. After the awesomecake that is Esseles, everything else is a stale cookie.

I played all Republic Flashpoints up to level 35, and I've decided to stop trying them because each time they just disappoint me. I don't need them for the loot, or the money, or the 'great groups' *coughsputter* I encounter.

For the social points I don't have to do it. For that, I just re-run Esseles with a bunch of fresh people who are doing it for the first time and are still really enjoying it.

...wish there was more Esseles awesomeness.
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nemhook's Avatar

12.30.2011 , 01:47 AM | #28
Quote: Originally Posted by psysention View Post
we are lvl 50 and we are doing hard mode instances

they kill poeple if they don't press space

and you sit here and talk about more conversation

go and watch a movie if you like to listen conversations

Your reading skill are lacking in soo many ways that "lol" you posted at the front of the post should be directed at yours.

At what point did the OP mention hard modes,, a high amount of people have lives, unlike you (i'm speculating, but the chances are high) and cant spend hours upon hours and nights playing and rushing through contents.

Theres also the matter of people wanting social points and enjoying stories while they can, but according to YOU, people shouldn't be wanting stories in NON HARDMODE flashpoints.

GhostRiderLSOV's Avatar

12.30.2011 , 04:06 AM | #29
Agree on choices/conversations. Now doing the Red Reaper and while it's enjoyable, it doesn't have any talking and only one choice. But still, it's small and fun.

Colicoid War Games on the other hand... glah I'm done with them.

My favorie is Maelstrom for reasons you'll find when you go there.

But for socialising, Esseles still takes the cake.
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PlayLoud's Avatar

12.30.2011 , 10:31 AM | #30
I was hoping to find a thread like this (was about to start my own).

I agree with the OP completely. The best time I have ever had in an MMO was running The Esseles with my friends. I figured the rest of the Flashpoints would be this good (story and dialog).

Then I ran Hammer Station, Athiss, and Mandalorian Raiders. None of them were any good. I mean, I have run them a few times for loot, but it was really just a big Heroic, and not a Flashpoint.

If anybody from BioWare is reading this, I request that all future Flashpoints be made in the model of The Esseles (story/dialog).
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