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Here's what a truly BAD launch looks like

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Here's what a truly BAD launch looks like

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Novare
12.13.2011 , 06:06 PM | #71
Quote: Originally Posted by Innoe View Post
You have no clue. With your example above EVERYONE is on the same page. EVERYONE is experiencing the same hangups. EVERYONE has the same ability to progress.

With the way BW is doing it, No one is on the same level. For a competitive player and guild, this crappy launch is a kick in the nuts. Nothing we can do as we watch our members slowly log in a few a day. Things like server firsts or guild vs guild competition is out the window for the foreseeable future.

This doesn't take into account the being on a PvP server and what it means to log in 5 days after anyone else. It also doesn't take into account the added stress on some people to try and catch up in levels to be able to participate with friends or guildmates.

Ive been playing MMO's for 15 years and in my OP this is the absolute WORST way to release a game. I can tell you in all honesty that this launch has all but killed any enthusiasm I had for TOR because I am so competitive.

Bioware, if I was not a member of a very good guild, I would be canceling my pre order right now. Thats a fact.
LoL, if I cant play noone can attitude is hillarious.

If you were are as uber competitive as you claim, you would have pre-ordered as soon as was available.

As far as pvp servers, if they roll on that server ganking happens, it just gets to happen sooner for others so big whoop.

As far as "firsts" are concerned that is individual opinion. Cant please everyone and bioware went the route of stability and controlled access instead of opening the floodgates.

I for one applaud this approach and I will most likely not get to play till the 19th. To those that are in already have fun, to those waiting get a cold beer and relax.
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coronary
12.13.2011 , 06:06 PM | #72
Yeah the worst launch is one where you buy a hardcopy of a game, load it on game day, go to play and it doesn't work. You then check the website and find nothing there, google the problem and find that most ppl are having the same trouble. 2 days later you find a solution through a friend who works in IT, still no information about the fault or a possible solution on the website. Load into the game write a letter of complaint, get no response. Totally ignored, problem completely unaddressed, have never bought from EA again, until this point in time and I think they aref doing a good job!
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Strenif
12.13.2011 , 06:07 PM | #73
Quote: Originally Posted by Alyxa View Post
You're allowed to download the game client starting the day before launch. It takes you the better part of a day because everyone and their grandmother and their dog are all trying to get the game installed before launch.

You finally get the game installed and fired up. You log in. You're #785 in a queue. It takes 3 hours to get into the game.

You get into the game, but the server lag is freaking terrible. Like you can't even move. You get disconnected.

You have to log in again, but LUCKILY you don't have to wait in queue again. You get into the game, but then the server crashes.

2 hours later you get an update on the game launcher from an hour ago saying that they'll have an update in 30 minutes. Ho hum. Servers down. For forever. Wasted Pizza Hutt and Full Throttles. Never really know *** happened.

When the servers do finally come back up (the next morning), you get in and everything seems good. Except there are 20 people sitting on a quest giver, making him unclickable. And then you have to go fight over mob spawns against 20 other people. Then you get to the part of the quest where you kill "the big guy" and you're stuck waiting to get your quest kill of ONE MOB, while you're getting ganked, and that stupid warrior's charge tagged the mob before you could get off a moonfire.

You finally get your quest kill and you have to go digging through a stack of players AGAIN to turn in your quest.

And then you get a game announcement saying that they're doing a server rollback.

So an hour later after they finally get the servers back up when it should have taken 15 minutes, you have to deal with 20 people camping the same mob YOU ALREADY KILLED while you're getting ganked and that stupid warrior's charge tagged the mob before you could get off a moonfire, and then you have to go digging through a stack of players again AGAIN to turn in your quest AGAIN.

So...

Am I a little frustrated that other people are playing the game that I'm DYING to play? Yes.

Am I frustrated that BW apparently decided to call it a day early and stop sending out waves for 16 and a half hours? Yes.

Could they have done this some other, better, way? Probably.

But "the worst launch ever"? I'm sorry, but no. BW made it known from DAY ONE that not everyone was getting into the game on day one of early access. And if it means that I don't have to sit for four hours in a queue so the servers can crash before I have to fight 50 people for the same respawns so they can rollback the servers and I have to do it all over again, then... Okay.
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Tsumedai
12.13.2011 , 06:07 PM | #74
Memo to those mocking Drakinor for not reading the whole OP: reading the whole thread may reduce your irony quotient.

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Aora
12.13.2011 , 06:07 PM | #75
Quote: Originally Posted by spinaltaprocks View Post
Its truly amazing how people don't understand that the launch is on December 20th. They anticipated these types of issues which is one of the reasons they are even doing this. I hope every person QQing about not getting free play time cancels their game and goes back to WOW. sure there are issues but maybe also consider they are doing us all a favor in an attempt to minimize these problems by phasing us in. and If you say or think that Rift, WOW and all the rest did not have these issues on their actual Launch days your lieing I played them all on the first day.
It's amazing how many people don't know the difference between a launch date and an official release date, nor take the time to read the first sentence of the Welcome Message sticky.

"Welcome Message from Ray Muzyka & Greg Zeschuk | Today , 07:16 AM

This is a big day for us; we are launching Star Wars: The Old Republic, BioWare’s largest and most ambitious project to date, and we’re very proud that you’ve been able to join us. It’s an honor to be able to share this game with you."

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redtimemonkey
12.13.2011 , 06:08 PM | #76
Quote: Originally Posted by IvamAkorahil View Post
agreed, bw did a good job today (iam not able to play yet)
Exactly.

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syvs
12.13.2011 , 06:08 PM | #77
Quote: Originally Posted by Provos View Post
Rift was nothing like this. I sat in a queue for an hour and a half but I was not made to wait two to four days longer than other person who paid the fee to get in early.
They didn't pay an extra fee to get in early. They pre-ordered early.
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TheShootist
12.13.2011 , 06:09 PM | #78
I'll probably be able to play in a few days, however my son got in on the second wave. Watching him play without all the congestion looks nice and smooth, can't wait til I get a chance to do the same and no worries as well.

This by far has to be the smoothest lauch yet, yes there will be a few bugs and glitches that are going to be exploited, but I'm sure they'll be fixed quite fast.

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TheSwamper
12.13.2011 , 06:10 PM | #79
Good post by the OP. Much better than the endless entitlement whines that are plaguing the boards today.

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GGTeMpLaR
12.13.2011 , 06:10 PM | #80
Quote: Originally Posted by Alyxa View Post
You're allowed to download the game client starting the day before launch. It takes you the better part of a day because everyone and their grandmother and their dog are all trying to get the game installed before launch.

You finally get the game installed and fired up. You log in. You're #785 in a queue. It takes 3 hours to get into the game.

You get into the game, but the server lag is freaking terrible. Like you can't even move. You get disconnected.

You have to log in again, but LUCKILY you don't have to wait in queue again. You get into the game, but then the server crashes.

2 hours later you get an update on the game launcher from an hour ago saying that they'll have an update in 30 minutes. Ho hum. Servers down. For forever. Wasted Pizza Hutt and Full Throttles. Never really know *** happened.

When the servers do finally come back up (the next morning), you get in and everything seems good. Except there are 20 people sitting on a quest giver, making him unclickable. And then you have to go fight over mob spawns against 20 other people. Then you get to the part of the quest where you kill "the big guy" and you're stuck waiting to get your quest kill of ONE MOB, while you're getting ganked, and that stupid warrior's charge tagged the mob before you could get off a moonfire.

You finally get your quest kill and you have to go digging through a stack of players AGAIN to turn in your quest.

And then you get a game announcement saying that they're doing a server rollback.

So an hour later after they finally get the servers back up when it should have taken 15 minutes, you have to deal with 20 people camping the same mob YOU ALREADY KILLED while you're getting ganked and that stupid warrior's charge tagged the mob before you could get off a moonfire, and then you have to go digging through a stack of players again AGAIN to turn in your quest AGAIN.

So...

Am I a little frustrated that other people are playing the game that I'm DYING to play? Yes.

Am I frustrated that BW apparently decided to call it a day early and stop sending out waves for 16 and a half hours? Yes.

Could they have done this some other, better, way? Probably.

But "the worst launch ever"? I'm sorry, but no. BW made it known from DAY ONE that not everyone was getting into the game on day one of early access. And if it means that I don't have to sit for four hours in a queue so the servers can crash before I have to fight 50 people for the same respawns so they can rollback the servers and I have to do it all over again, then... Okay.
I'd prefer to at least be on equal grounds with everyone else rather than be forced to the back of the bus because I didn't pre-order the game the first week it was made available.

It's a stupid excuse and something that should be done in beta, not for launch. Everyone deserves an equal opportunity to start at launch, or at least as equal as possible. Being an entire week behind is absurd.

They might as well just have let people keep their beta characters to be honest.