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It's all relative. Big guilds are scoring 20M conquest points easily in a week, instead of 8M, while little guilds are scoring 60K instead of 54K.

 

No real change. - Beside people getting to personal goal and stopping doing conquest-only objectives.

 

BTW - why no conquest awards for Space-on rails? I know it's not everyone's cup of Bantha milk, but the rewards for space missions are miserly already.

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It's all relative. Big guilds are scoring 20M conquest points easily in a week, instead of 8M, while little guilds are scoring 60K instead of 54K.

 

No real change. - Beside people getting to personal goal and stopping doing conquest-only objectives.

 

BTW - why no conquest awards for Space-on rails? I know it's not everyone's cup of Bantha milk, but the rewards for space missions are miserly already.

 

Yes, due to the current nature of conquest, big guilds can now just park their "afk" characters in the middle of lvl 70 mob areas for hours and farm tons of conquest points per kills by letting their companion do all the work. This helps them to gain planet wins

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Yeah. You can't macro keys, but that doesn't stop some people finding innovative ways of manually pressing a key every now and again to jiggle their character and stop the AFK triggering.

 

If Homer Simpson could reset the nuclear power plant alarm with a Drinking Bird toy There re probably updated versions in the 21st century.

 

Yes, i would suggest if they can capped conquest points from killing mobs per character earned for the week. Set the cap at maybe 30,000 conquest points to be earned per week just by kills. After 30,000 conquest points earned from kills, no conquest points will then be awarded. This will prevent the abuse of conquest points to win planets. The concept of winning planets is to actually get players to play objectives, not just a few 24/7 bots killing and farming conquest points for them.

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Chore? At this point you have to just be trolling. Conquest hasn't been this easy since they had the change phase bug to allow you to reset objectives.

 

EDIT: You mean the Weekly......... yeah... i only do the weekly on CZ and Ziost because they are fast and easy. Get Ziost and CZ done in about 10 minutes and get a bonus 400 Conquest for doing them.

 

I've haven't done conquest for a extremely long time .

tried it again after the change that gave you CQ for all you do like the 6.0 play it your way theme they are selling us.

 

One would think that doing WEEKLY

Ossus

Yavin 4

Black hole

CZ-198

Ziost

 

That alone would make you get too 15K conquest but No.

 

To me, that should be enough to have it done , running after CQ objects to me is boring since that means I'm forced to do something I might not like.

Mind you, I've been here since the start so not many things are FUN anymore.

Some weekly you can stand doing and atm it's Oooo well lets have it done.

 

Still, in the grand plan of it all, for me it's pointless anyhow since I use the Guild Ship as a private stronghold and there is not a snowball in hell you will ever be able to collect what you need to unlock even 1 single room

50 Blue ones for 1 Purple that means 250 Blue, if I can get my self to do 10 a week you do the math.

 

Buy them is not an option, last time I looked a few days ago, a Command framework was in the order of 60+ mill EACH.

 

All the Best

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It's all relative. Big guilds are scoring 20M conquest points easily in a week, instead of 8M, while little guilds are scoring 60K instead of 54K.

 

No real change. - Beside people getting to personal goal and stopping doing conquest-only objectives.

 

BTW - why no conquest awards for Space-on rails? I know it's not everyone's cup of Bantha milk, but the rewards for space missions are miserly already.

 

You get a fair amount of conquest points for the 3 minute entry level PVE space mission.

The problem with those became apparent shortly after the "heroic" space missions came out.

Between people exploiting them, and the general negative backlash from the increase in difficulty...I think the devs pretty much abandoned space PVE

 

You could do 10-15 Jabiim escort (30-45 minutes) or do CZ198 and a few of the shorter heroics and get your 15k in about the same time frame.

 

One is WAY more mind-numbingly boring than the other.

 

 

***edited***

I logged in to see how many points a space PVE mission got. last I checked was dbl xp week...so my numbers aren't accurate for "normal" weeks.

 

With the 10% conquest guild perk and wearing my 7 piece dvl suit (why not?) I am now getting ~650 conquest points for that 3.5 minute space PVE mission.

 

still a bit faster than MOST heroics...but you'll need to do it 23 times.

 

Faster to do regular heroics since you'll get bonus missions and rampage(s)

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While this divinely abundant awarding of conquest points is amazing. With experience i know there is a nerf football in conquests future as this is the pattern with such things.

 

That being said what if only quest mission completion was the only manner in which these new conquest points are awarded. Instead of mobs allowing for conquest at all. This may balance the overwhelming awesomeness of conquest scoring that was the past two weeks.

 

Sounds to me like someone is worried the rarity of conquest items are becoming less rare, therefor driving down the market price. Just a theory.

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While this divinely abundant awarding of conquest points is amazing. With experience i know there is a nerf football in conquests future as this is the pattern with such things.

 

That being said what if only quest mission completion was the only manner in which these new conquest points are awarded. Instead of mobs allowing for conquest at all. This may balance the overwhelming awesomeness of conquest scoring that was the past two weeks.

 

Sounds to me like someone is worried the rarity of conquest items are becoming less rare, therefor driving down the market price. Just a theory.

 

 

Nah...there is a pretty good history of the devs implementing something and then deciding it's TOO MUCH and nerfinng it.

 

I think it's too soon to tell. Need a few more weeks of data.

 

Also, unlike things in the past, there's no real "cry" on the forums to change things right now.

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It's all relative. Big guilds are scoring 20M conquest points easily in a week, instead of 8M, while little guilds are scoring 60K instead of 54K.

 

No real change. - Beside people getting to personal goal and stopping doing conquest-only objectives.

 

BTW - why no conquest awards for Space-on rails? I know it's not everyone's cup of Bantha milk, but the rewards for space missions are miserly already.

 

I’d like some space rails conquest. I often do it when I’m sitting around. I find it relaxing.

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Yes, due to the current nature of conquest, big guilds can now just park their "afk" characters in the middle of lvl 70 mob areas for hours and farm tons of conquest points per kills by letting their companion do all the work. This helps them to gain planet wins

 

I’ve yet to come across this. Would you mind providing more info. ie, what planets and areas so that we may go and see them doing it. Or could you possibly link some proof.

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I’ve yet to come across this. Would you mind providing more info. ie, what planets and areas so that we may go and see them doing it. Or could you possibly link some proof.

You get a lot of ************ on fleet about this and botting, but i have yet to see any proof (even though we've asked, we get the usual carp, people know this & that, blah, blah). Chances are they are just trolls, jealous, or people who were selling the matts for ridiculous prices, and are pissed off as the prices have come down.

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Please look into capping conquest points from only solely kills per week! This will greatly help guilds trying to win planets without competing with unfair kill bots. Other conquest gaining features can remain unchanged as it is harder to exploit them.
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You get a lot of ************ on fleet about this and botting, but i have yet to see any proof (even though we've asked, we get the usual carp, people know this & that, blah, blah). Chances are they are just trolls, jealous, or people who were selling the matts for ridiculous prices, and are pissed off as the prices have come down.

 

Not exactly, The main thing is that the conquest per kills are way too easy to exploit. There is already mats botters out there, macro killing is not that hard 24/7 anyway for those botters. The bottomline is that it is not fair to normal players. Capping conquest points per kills will make it more fair to everyone.

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I’ve yet to come across this. Would you mind providing more info. ie, what planets and areas so that we may go and see them doing it. Or could you possibly link some proof.

 

Not sure that is possible because everytime I go afk in my stronghold i get booted out of the game after a few minutes and you get booted out if you go afk if you are in a flashpoint or operation with people and go afk so I don't see how that is possible to go afk for hours and not get booted.

 

I even talked to a friend of mine, who was known for macros on SWG and he said macros are really not that possible on SWTOR because of the way they have set up the afk booting. We used to call him the Afk macro king on SWG.

 

To me, it sounds like sour grapes because the devs did this.

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Not exactly, The main thing is that the conquest per kills are way too easy to exploit. There is already mats botters out there, macro killing is not that hard 24/7 anyway for those botters. The bottomline is that it is not fair to normal players. Capping conquest points per kills will make it more fair to everyone.

 

Or you know, the GM's could do their jobs and nail the people macroing rather then punishing everyone else.

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Not sure that is possible because everytime I go afk in my stronghold i get booted out of the game after a few minutes and you get booted out if you go afk if you are in a flashpoint or operation with people and go afk so I don't see how that is possible to go afk for hours and not get booted.

 

I even talked to a friend of mine, who was known for macros on SWG and he said macros are really not that possible on SWTOR because of the way they have set up the afk booting. We used to call him the Afk macro king on SWG.

 

To me, it sounds like sour grapes because the devs did this.

 

It doesnt meant that it is not doable for farmers and botters. for example, many advanced keyboards nowadays such as razer keyboard have a macro key application enabled. The inputs will still be from keyboard but the game can't tell the difference if it is being coded properly. If it is set to push certain buttons on the keyboard at certain intervals i.e every 30 seconds or so in a loop, the game can't tell if players are actually afk right.

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I've haven't done conquest for a extremely long time .

tried it again after the change that gave you CQ for all you do like the 6.0 play it your way theme they are selling us.

 

One would think that doing WEEKLY

Ossus

Yavin 4

Black hole

CZ-198

Ziost

 

That alone would make you get too 15K conquest but No.

 

To me, that should be enough to have it done , running after CQ objects to me is boring since that means I'm forced to do something I might not like.

Mind you, I've been here since the start so not many things are FUN anymore.

Some weekly you can stand doing and atm it's Oooo well lets have it done.

 

Still, in the grand plan of it all, for me it's pointless anyhow since I use the Guild Ship as a private stronghold and there is not a snowball in hell you will ever be able to collect what you need to unlock even 1 single room

50 Blue ones for 1 Purple that means 250 Blue, if I can get my self to do 10 a week you do the math.

 

Buy them is not an option, last time I looked a few days ago, a Command framework was in the order of 60+ mill EACH.

 

All the Best

 

I can get to 10-11 a week through conquest, but on Satele Shan, not many people are running the commanders during the day. I have had weeks where I pull in 60+ blues in a week just from commander kills (add in the sporadic smattering of random purples as well). I have opened 10/15 in my guldship on my own of the last couple of years. I trade ones I don't need anymore for ones I do now. Just need one more command room then start in on Hangar full on.

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I can get to 10-11 a week through conquest, but on Satele Shan, not many people are running the commanders during the day. I have had weeks where I pull in 60+ blues in a week just from commander kills (add in the sporadic smattering of random purples as well). I have opened 10/15 in my guldship on my own of the last couple of years. I trade ones I don't need anymore for ones I do now. Just need one more command room then start in on Hangar full on.

 

CQ is only a part of the SWTOR ecosystem if you dont like doing it go Raid, or Quest, or even try to find me in PvP... :p

 

I have a fully unlocked Imperial Cruiser at 100% but no members are in the guild as i like it!

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I can get to 10-11 a week through conquest, but on Satele Shan, not many people are running the commanders during the day. I have had weeks where I pull in 60+ blues in a week just from commander kills (add in the sporadic smattering of random purples as well). I have opened 10/15 in my guldship on my own of the last couple of years. I trade ones I don't need anymore for ones I do now. Just need one more command room then start in on Hangar full on.

 

My personal Han Solo Cruiser as it were parading from planet to planet incognito!

:D

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