MrHotter Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 (edited) Right now I have a character for every crafting/mission skill at 400. Every other character I make is now bioanalysis/biochem/slicing. My 'crafting' characters are no longer my main characters. The main reason why is because I'm cheap and lazy. I don't want to spend time on my 400 biochem guy farming/crafting so that my other characters can be equipped with stims/medpaks/adrenals. It's nice to have the stim buff up 100% of the time without having stacks of them and the ability to use an adrenal every time it comes off of cooldown. The problem this causes is that it means that biochem becomes the only trade skill that is useful for most characters. What I'd like to see is something like: Reusable Hyper-Battle Fortitude Stim Requires level 48 Requires Biochem, Armormech, or Sythweaving (380) Reusable Hyper-Battle Skill Stim Requires level 48 Requires Biochem or Armstech (380) That way if a player thought that making weapons would make them better at DPS they could use DPS stims/adrenals, and if someone thought that making armor would make them a better tank they could use armor/endurance stims/adrenals. Of course they would still need a biochem guy to make the reusable items for them, but I don't think we could take away schematics from any crafters. Edited January 22, 2013 by MrHotter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wainot-keel Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 So you wanna undermine one of Biochem's way of making money because you're too lazy and cheap to level a craft you find useful ? Damn. To undermine crafting, we have the Cartel Market. No need to come up with other ideas to further aggravate the situation. Besides, if everybody can have free stims/adrenals 100% time, that kinda defeat the whole purpose of them, which is to provide a certain bonus for certain situations, a bonus you have to pay for (or work for) to have. They might as well add some sort datacron thing / quest that adds that stim/adrenal to you ability book and that would be it if you want that for everybody Having free stims and adrenals 100% of the time is Biochem's perk. Leave it as it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHotter Posted January 22, 2013 Author Share Posted January 22, 2013 So you wanna undermine one of Biochem's way of making money because you're too lazy and cheap to level a craft you find useful ? Damn. To undermine crafting, we have the Cartel Market. No need to come up with other ideas to further aggravate the situation. Besides, if everybody can have free stims/adrenals 100% time, that kinda defeat the whole purpose of them, which is to provide a certain bonus for certain situations, a bonus you have to pay for (or work for) to have. They might as well add some sort datacron thing / quest that adds that stim/adrenal to you ability book and that would be it if you want that for everybody Having free stims and adrenals 100% of the time is Biochem's perk. Leave it as it is. How many sets of armor and weapons did you buy from a crafter since you hit max level? If you could sell re-usable stims/adrenals to every other profession you could still make money. Being the only craft that could make health packs is still a way to make credis. Having one craft be the only one with any end game use is just dumb. It should have been this way from the start. Armstech should have been making overcharged cells for more energy weapon DPS, and armortech and synthweaving should have been making armor boosts. Think beyond your only craft that you take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psandak Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 How many sets of armor and weapons did you buy from a crafter since you hit max level? If you could sell re-usable stims/adrenals to every other profession you could still make money. Being the only craft that could make health packs is still a way to make credis. Having one craft be the only one with any end game use is just dumb. It should have been this way from the start. Armstech should have been making overcharged cells for more energy weapon DPS, and armortech and synthweaving should have been making armor boosts. Think beyond your only craft that you take. You forget that armstech, armormech, and synthweaving craft augments. Even the blue quality level 49 augments sell VERY well for a good net profit (and even if you do not have slicing you can get the blue quality sliced parts for a song because the market is so flooded). It is not millions overnight, but I generate a slow but steady income just from blue quality augments on my amormech and synthweaving characters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holinyx Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 400 in everything over 6 characters. I still actively craft armorings, mods, enhancements, color crystals, earpieces, implants, augment kits, and barrels. i can easily make a million credits a day if i wanted to. 1. you have to remember that there is still a huge market for items level 1-46. i stopped crafting level 50 items a long time ago. except for the MK-5-6 kits. those things sell almost instantly. 2. always sell what is NOT on the gtn. crafting is not dead by any means and there are still tons of different ways to make alot of money crafting. this may or may not have been the OP's point, but i'm just throwing that out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wainot-keel Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 (edited) How many sets of armor and weapons did you buy from a crafter since you hit max level? If you could sell re-usable stims/adrenals to every other profession you could still make money. Being the only craft that could make health packs is still a way to make credis. Having one craft be the only one with any end game use is just dumb. It should have been this way from the start. Armstech should have been making overcharged cells for more energy weapon DPS, and armortech and synthweaving should have been making armor boosts. You started off this thread that you , out of laziness and cheapness, wanted to have Biochem reusables on the other skills, because well, Biochem has that and it's quite handy. That's one thing. Another is wanting all skills having some equally useful, but different, desireble perk. Think beyond your only craft that you take. I have all 6 professions at 400 Edited January 24, 2013 by wainot-keel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundergulch Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 What I'd like to see is something like: Reusable Hyper-Battle Fortitude Stim Requires level 48 Requires Biochem, Armormech, or Sythweaving (380) Reusable Hyper-Battle Skill Stim Requires level 48 Requires Biochem or Armstech (380) No, absolutely not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uniz Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 why should the game be changed because you are lazy and cheap? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitering Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Well, they just made Armstech, Armortech and Synthweaving able to make the augment kits you need for EVERY piece of equipment in the game. That's gone a long ways to making them profitable. I don't know that they need anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leen_ Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 (edited) well there is a secondary problem with this idea aside from the fact that a lot of people say this is a bad idea and that is Bioware as said in some post that they are not gonna create anymore reuseable items any more (hence why exotech has no resuseable one). and even if you had a reuseable one say for bio you have to have biotech to even use it Edited January 25, 2013 by Leen_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitering Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 No, everything the other people make is reusable, well, Orange armor is at least and every mod they make. Now that you can make any mod a legacy mod though, that's what really hurt them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leen_ Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 No, everything the other people make is reusable, well, Orange armor is at least and every mod they make. Now that you can make any mod a legacy mod though, that's what really hurt them. the difference is when you have a orange item that requires mods and plates is that you change said mods and plates you have to give something up to change them whether its credits to take them out or the plate/mods it self to when you replace it. reuseable med kits and reuseable stims dont cost anything outside of the original cost to make them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eittik Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 the difference is when you have a orange item that requires mods and plates is that you change said mods and plates you have to give something up to change them whether its credits to take them out or the plate/mods it self to when you replace it. reuseable med kits and reuseable stims dont cost anything outside of the original cost to make them. That..... and having to keep biochem to use it. You know..... taking up a more lucrative profession slot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHotter Posted January 29, 2013 Author Share Posted January 29, 2013 why should the game be changed because you are lazy and cheap? Because most players are lazy and cheap. If Biochem is the only craft worth having for most players who don't want to spend a lot of money (or grind on their biochem character) then the game is not working very well for most players. I just want to have a reason to play one of my non biochem characters. Now that we have more slots I have 11 characters with biochem, because no other craft has anything useful for leveling/endgame that I can't make on my other crafters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psandak Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 I just want to have a reason to play one of my non biochem characters. Now that we have more slots I have 11 characters with biochem, because no other craft has anything useful for leveling/endgame that I can't make on my other crafters. I'll agree with your point that once you have enough characters to cover all crafting crew skills that having more than one of all but biochem can be silly, but there is no real harm in that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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