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Time to nerf Deception assassin's dps or everyone will play only assassin

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Time to nerf Deception assassin's dps or everyone will play only assassin

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DavidAtkinson
11.09.2019 , 12:01 AM | #111
Quote: Originally Posted by TrixxieTriss View Post
This thread is a self fulfilling prophecy. As soon as you make a thread like this, all the FOTM rerolled to Sins. Most are terrible and you can tell who the real Sin players are that arent FOTM.

Sadly, this thread is becoming more true. There are more and more bad Sins turning up and half your teams can be mostly sins. Even when there are 9 sins in a match, the stupid queue doesn’t split them, it just puts 7 or 8 in one team and 1 in another of all non Stealths. Which obviously makes Sins look and feel OP.

Can’t wait for some more “nerf threads” for other classes so these FOTM rerollers jump ship again. Anyone want to make some nerf Merc, nerf sniper and nerf PT threads so we can spread the FOTM crowd around a bit
Last night I did some SR matches on DM and there wasn't a single merc in que.... Can you believe that ? No merc in que..

And regarding sins. They have indeed crazy burst and 1v1 it's a challenge now for my marauder. Defense wise they are mostly the same, but they have very good tacticals, can guard other players, can taunt to reduce dmg etc. Lots of games you face 3 sins . It's not impossible to win though.... but it's very tough if they they are competent.

I want to have fun in ranked and stop stressing about it.

Based on our 5.0 merc experience a nerf is not very likely to happen. And Trixxie, the majority of the players never read these forums. This thread surely ain't the reason to reroll...
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TrixxieTriss
11.09.2019 , 07:57 AM | #112
Quote: Originally Posted by DavidAtkinson View Post
Last night I did some SR matches on DM and there wasn't a single merc in que.... Can you believe that ? No merc in que..

And regarding sins. They have indeed crazy burst and 1v1 it's a challenge now for my marauder. Defense wise they are mostly the same, but they have very good tacticals, can guard other players, can taunt to reduce dmg etc. Lots of games you face 3 sins . It's not impossible to win though.... but it's very tough if they they are competent.

I want to have fun in ranked and stop stressing about it.

Based on our 5.0 merc experience a nerf is not very likely to happen. And Trixxie, the majority of the players never read these forums. This thread surely ain't the reason to reroll...
Side Question about your Mara, what spec and set bonus are you using? I’m running Fury still, but I’m a bit up in the air which set bonus to use or tactical.

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DavidAtkinson
11.09.2019 , 10:56 AM | #113
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Side Question about your Mara, what spec and set bonus are you using? I’m running Fury still, but I’m a bit up in the air which set bonus to use or tactical.
Off topic.

I managed to grind out the perfect form armor set and the other one, descent of the fearless I think..

Descent of the fearless seems the better one because It generates a lot furious power, while the other I'm still not sure about though.

Currently I play Annihilation with defel spliced genes tactical and I'm currently testing 1.3 GCD - periodic intensity amps on all pieces.

For fury I use the other set with armor pen on all pieces,. but Honestly I think Descent of the fearless is the best for mara.

Most tacticals seem useless in PVP.. except the one that resets camo with pred.
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omeru
11.09.2019 , 12:09 PM | #114
Sins are broken BW will not fix this since they they never listen players this is what happened last 8 years and they still has no clue they are doing it wrong.

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TrixxieTriss
11.09.2019 , 04:50 PM | #115
Quote: Originally Posted by DavidAtkinson View Post
Off topic.

I managed to grind out the perfect form armor set and the other one, descent of the fearless I think..

Descent of the fearless seems the better one because It generates a lot furious power, while the other I'm still not sure about though.

Currently I play Annihilation with defel spliced genes tactical and I'm currently testing 1.3 GCD - periodic intensity amps on all pieces.

For fury I use the other set with armor pen on all pieces,. but Honestly I think Descent of the fearless is the best for mara.

Most tacticals seem useless in PVP.. except the one that resets camo with pred.
I’ve been collecting Descent of the Fearless on my Rage Jugg (up to 4 pieces at the moment), so at least I can use it for my Mara too.

I do have a question about furious power. I’ve been using it with furious strike and I try to let it build up to at least 2 charges. But sometimes it feels like it’s weaker than not using it at all. Should I be using it then or is there a better combo.

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DavidAtkinson
11.10.2019 , 12:18 AM | #116
Quote: Originally Posted by TrixxieTriss View Post
I’ve been collecting Descent of the Fearless on my Rage Jugg (up to 4 pieces at the moment), so at least I can use it for my Mara too.

I do have a question about furious power. I’ve been using it with furious strike and I try to let it build up to at least 2 charges. But sometimes it feels like it’s weaker than not using it at all. Should I be using it then or is there a better combo.
I am still in the process of adapting that into the rotation... I always use it before the big hits. For example before annihilate will result in 40k 50k hit.
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Seterade
11.10.2019 , 01:26 AM | #117
furious power only affects weapon strike, white damage only. and its a stack, each strike deals 25% bonus damage, up to 4 strike one after another. you cant increase a saber stroke by 50%+ and it doesnt affect any yellow damage.

imo its bad.... for pvp they basicaly got the short end. 25% boost on a damage type thats only half the rotation and not even its primary damage.


PS: I've stayed out of this topic till I had more experience playing a variety of classes and testing 306 burst/rotation damage.... conclusion? this topic is full of so much salty tears. sins are literaly not that bad at all. my ruffian scoundrel is bursting 40k crits every 23 seconds, in between his crits hes doing 30k backblasts and 25k brutal shots, repeatedly... leading up to ez 150k dmg in a single rotation. and thats the dot spec.... imagine what concealment is doing if lethality is criting 40ks

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TrixxieTriss
11.10.2019 , 05:18 AM | #118
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furious power only affects weapon strike, white damage only. and its a stack, each strike deals 25% bonus damage, up to 4 strike one after another. you cant increase a saber stroke by 50%+ and it doesnt affect any yellow damage.

imo its bad.... for pvp they basicaly got the short end. 25% boost on a damage type thats only half the rotation and not even its primary damage.
Yep, that’s why I use it before furious strike or retaliation and I guess you could use it for viscous slash and Sabre throw? You’d need to make sure you’ve got your rage built up.

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Drunken-Monkey
11.10.2019 , 09:03 AM | #119
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[...]I do have a question about furious power. I’ve been using it with furious strike and I try to let it build up to at least 2 charges. But sometimes it feels like it’s weaker than not using it at all. Should I be using it then or is there a better combo.
If you play marauder, you would use furious power ideally right before your burst combo (obliterate>furious strike>raging burst>vicious throw).

In conjunction with the perseverance tactical (autocrit on obliterate under furious power buff) and a little bit critluck, you can throw out some nice burst now and then >> burst example.
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