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(PvP) 46+4 No DoT Build


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Cempa
01.23.2012 , 09:38 AM | #11
Quote: Originally Posted by MajinUltima View Post
You're not gaining anything, Wrath + CL is how all Sorcs spec right now because it's the only viable dps build for PVP or PVE. And we still use Affliction and Crushing Darkness. Like I said, you're cutting things that boost DOTs for non-damage skills. You are NOT gaining a single damage-related thing that a Sorc would not already have.

You asked about viability, I'm telling you what you're losing and what you're gaining. I'm not saying you aren't gaining those as options, but to pretend you aren't losing damage is to just be ignorant.

Since I PVP a lot myself right now, I too am considering some variant of it. Basically exchange Affliction for Chain Shock...

Something like this may be slightly more appropriate:
http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#20...zMrZcrcRsMzb.1
I like it, moved 2 points from Corrupted Flesh into Lingering Nightmare -Crushing Darkness hits hard as it is.

I wounder though:

Lingering Nightmare Vs Deathmark ..or split the points?

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Abraxxes
01.23.2012 , 09:55 AM | #12
I would consider the 13/12/16 (or whatever variation of it you run) a no DoT build. You still use Crushing Darkness, but you're avoiding the useless skill of Affliction and just going straight into Chain Lightning -> Wrath Procs for all your damage. If you're saying you don't even want to use Crushing Darkness with your wrath procs, then you're just being bad, that's a lot more single target damage than Chain Lightning ever would be. I would argue even if you did go further into the Lightning tree for Lightning Barrage your DPS would be on par if not a little lower considering you wouldn't benefit from the 10% bonus AoE damage in the Healing tree, which makes the tri spec pretty OP for damage. People in my guild have hit nearly 600k with it.

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Cempa
01.23.2012 , 10:49 AM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by Abraxxes View Post
I would consider the 13/12/16 (or whatever variation of it you run) a no DoT build. You still use Crushing Darkness, but you're avoiding the useless skill of Affliction and just going straight into Chain Lightning -> Wrath Procs for all your damage. If you're saying you don't even want to use Crushing Darkness with your wrath procs, then you're just being bad, that's a lot more single target damage than Chain Lightning ever would be. I would argue even if you did go further into the Lightning tree for Lightning Barrage your DPS would be on par if not a little lower considering you wouldn't benefit from the 10% bonus AoE damage in the Healing tree, which makes the tri spec pretty OP for damage. People in my guild have hit nearly 600k with it.
A true glass AE cannon which I have seen doing well in WZ with 10-12 medals constant and pretty much always above 300k which is nice but I rather have ways to survive a Sentinel!

Since I pretty much insist on having Backlash (blind)+Electric Binding (5 sec root)+Haunted Dreams (instant WW+2 sec stun on dmg break) I found my self in a strange place as I can not buff my DoT's as to be a DoT build or have any kind of burst to be DD/burst build.

So I looked at how I can do damage and that is Force Lightning / Shock / Death Field / Wrath+CL and Wrath+CD that's it. Since that is pretty much all I can do as a hybrid I decided to put everything else into PvP survivability!

I use my DoT's but they are situational -as in objective focused or Wrath is up and CL is on CD.

Edit: The only extra bit of damage that would fit would be Lightning Barrage which would mean moving 4 points out of PvP fluff.

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Abraxxes
01.24.2012 , 12:40 PM | #14
Quote: Originally Posted by Cempa View Post
A true glass AE cannon which I have seen doing well in WZ with 10-12 medals constant and pretty much always above 300k which is nice but I rather have ways to survive a Sentinel!

Since I pretty much insist on having Backlash (blind)+Electric Binding (5 sec root)+Haunted Dreams (instant WW+2 sec stun on dmg break) I found my self in a strange place as I can not buff my DoT's as to be a DoT build or have any kind of burst to be DD/burst build.
This build still gives you a way to survive a sentinel with the decent amount of healing you have from the Corruption tree, it also opens up a lot more group utility in the fact that you can heal your teamates more effectively. Resurgence -> Double Dark Infusions proc glitch for 1.4s casts. You can even pick up an additional 8% healing on yourself, at the expense of a few things, for even more survival. Also with the extra point in the Lightning tree I do pick up a 50% chance to proc Electric Binding, the root on Overload. I honestly don't feel 100% is necessary because the only reason I'd need to use it to survive would be against multiple enemies, say a 2v1, I'm pretty much guaranteed one snare. You can then follow this up by casting WW on the guy who wasn't snared, he has to run back in anyways, and then burst down the guy who was previously snared that's still bound by Overload. Considering I mainly heal, and am focused a lot as a result, I'd usually end up binding 3 out of the 5 or so people who zerged me when I tried this spec because they thought I was healing still.