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Please no more Warcraft terms.

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Amdramnar
03.13.2012 , 10:52 AM | #11
The part I am confused about is I played all the Warcraft games from "Humans vs Orcs" all the addons for Warcraft III and I never heard any of those terms.
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Lurkz
03.13.2012 , 10:56 AM | #12
Quote: Originally Posted by Amdramnar View Post
The part I am confused about is I played all the Warcraft games from "Humans vs Orcs" all the addons for Warcraft III and I never heard any of those terms.
These are MMO terms, not Warcraft terms despite what the OP stated in the topic name.
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Datamonger
03.13.2012 , 11:04 AM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by Anysao View Post
"Raids"- Why is it so hard to say Ops? It can be incredibly confusing to a new player.
"Taunts"- I am tank-specced and I had NO idea where "taunts" come from, and took forever for me to learn that it's just to grab the attention of the enemy.
"Mobs"- Where does this come from for NPCs? It's the most random name so far.
"Instance"- Don't really have a problem with this one, yet I'm not sure where it comes from, it seems just like an odd term.
"Pets"- A companion is a NPC sidekick, not a pet. For pets, see mouse droids, and other droids. I WILL KILL ANYONE WHO CALLS MY COMPANION A PET!!
Yet these are all words used in a game I've played called City of Heroes, an MMO released before WoW. We have the Hamidon "Raid", tankers have a power called "Taunt" (which, yes, taunts), "Mobs" are constantly being "Aggro'ed", and Controllers and Masterminds summon "Pets" which they need to keep under control.

Yep, despite what so many people like to think, not everything came from WoW. In fact, if you look closely, you'll discover 99% of it came from MMO's in general, not solely WoW...

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Tioda
03.13.2012 , 11:14 AM | #14
This is my fourth MMO and yeah, these terms are everywhere. And as someone said, at least one of them, 'dungeon', goes back to table top rpg gaming, i.e. Dungeons and Dragons, which I first tried back in 1980 (and hated, BORING! imho).

I agree, it's weird to call a space battle instance a 'dungeon', but what the hey. Like some of the other posters, the one that bothers me is 'pet' for the companion. The companions really are something new (at least to me) and different. You interact with them in a way you never did with a pet.

As to not knowing what the various terms mean, well, neither did I when I started. Instead of complaining, ask! Simple enough, and most people will be happy to tell you, and the flamers who act like you're a doofus for not already knowing aren't worth bothering about.

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pluzoid
03.13.2012 , 11:31 AM | #15
The reason for such terms to make quick comments whilst in battle, you dont wanna have to type "can the tank please take these npcs off me as im dying", its much easier to say "aggro" or "taunt off me please".

you missed off

adds - when 1 or more npcs join in on the current fight.

cc - crowd control - using abilities that temperarly disable the npc of movement or attacks.

pat - patrol - when npcs are walking along a set path which may bring them back along your path as you attack a group of npcs.

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Datamonger
03.13.2012 , 11:39 AM | #16
Quote: Originally Posted by pluzoid View Post
The reason for such terms to make quick comments whilst in battle, you dont wanna have to type "can the tank please take these npcs off me as im dying", its much easier to say "aggro" or "taunt off me please".

you missed off

adds - when 1 or more npcs join in on the current fight.

cc - crowd control - using abilities that temperarly disable the npc of movement or attacks.

pat - patrol - when npcs are walking along a set path which may bring them back along your path as you attack a group of npcs.
Don't forget:

hlz or hlr - sometimes used to refer to a "Healer"

pwn, pwnz, pwn'd, or pwnage - thou hast been "owned"

noob, newb, or newbz - derogatory term used to refer to a new player, or even commonly used by the uneducated to refer to someone who doesn't agree with their point of view

Not to mention countless internet memes which find their way into General chat. It's an MMO thing.

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Goomesh
03.13.2012 , 11:39 AM | #17
Believe it or not, WoW wasn't the first MMO and it's not the only one out there. ALL of these terms were coined long before WoW's release.

Quote: Originally Posted by Anysao View Post
It can be utterly confusing. I ask you to please cut down on them, as they can be annoying. Some things I do and do not like are below-
Bad slang:
"Raids"- Why is it so hard to say Ops? It can be incredibly confusing to a new player.
"Taunts"- I am tank-specced and I had NO idea where "taunts" come from, and took forever for me to learn that it's just to grab the attention of the enemy.
"Mobs"- Where does this come from for NPCs? It's the most random name so far.
"Instance"- Don't really have a problem with this one, yet I'm not sure where it comes from, it seems just like an odd term.
"Dungeons"- I assume you mean Flashpoints, and you can not have a worse term. Since when is being in deep space, while being under attack by an enemy cruiser, a "dungeon"?
"Pets"- A companion is a NPC sidekick, not a pet. For pets, see mouse droids, and other droids. I WILL KILL ANYONE WHO CALLS MY COMPANION A PET!!

Slang I'm fine with:
"Aggro"- I don't like the term, but it's the only term i know of to get attention of NPCs.
"Tank"- Well, this is in any MMO, so, it's not really a problem.
"DPS"- Although we rarely mean "Damage Per SECOND", it is useful to understand.
"HP"- Hitpoints, or health. No problem here.

I wont lecture you, but, please, for other player's gaming experience, use standard terms to help people learn how the game works.
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Anysao
03.13.2012 , 11:45 AM | #18
Quote: Originally Posted by Tioda View Post
This is my fourth MMO and yeah, these terms are everywhere. And as someone said, at least one of them, 'dungeon', goes back to table top rpg gaming, i.e. Dungeons and Dragons, which I first tried back in 1980 (and hated, BORING! imho).

I agree, it's weird to call a space battle instance a 'dungeon', but what the hey. Like some of the other posters, the one that bothers me is 'pet' for the companion. The companions really are something new (at least to me) and different. You interact with them in a way you never did with a pet.

As to not knowing what the various terms mean, well, neither did I when I started. Instead of complaining, ask! Simple enough, and most people will be happy to tell you, and the flamers who act like you're a doofus for not already knowing aren't worth bothering about.
(I quoted this one as it's the most polite)

And I have asked, and they've defined it for me. I respect these terms, and now after 50 levels, I under stand them (I've actually said "taunt" during a flashpoint).

And I know they aren't WoW terms, I just said that as that's probably the most popular MMO currently. And it's not about me, it's about the new players. This is my first MMO, and I only half-understood them because I started a thread like back in augest asking about it.

Ps- and my apoalgiseis, I had no idea Jedi guardians literrly had "taunt". I'm a sith assassin, and my aggro-grab or "taunt", is called mind control/mass mind control. Not exactly a TAUNT...
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wrong_turn
03.13.2012 , 11:50 AM | #19
Quote: Originally Posted by Anysao View Post
It can be utterly confusing. I ask you to please cut down on them, as they can be annoying. Some things I do and do not like are below-
Bad slang:
"Raids"- Why is it so hard to say Ops? It can be incredibly confusing to a new player.
"Taunts"- I am tank-specced and I had NO idea where "taunts" come from, and took forever for me to learn that it's just to grab the attention of the enemy.
"Mobs"- Where does this come from for NPCs? It's the most random name so far.
"Instance"- Don't really have a problem with this one, yet I'm not sure where it comes from, it seems just like an odd term.
"Dungeons"- I assume you mean Flashpoints, and you can not have a worse term. Since when is being in deep space, while being under attack by an enemy cruiser, a "dungeon"?
"Pets"- A companion is a NPC sidekick, not a pet. For pets, see mouse droids, and other droids. I WILL KILL ANYONE WHO CALLS MY COMPANION A PET!!

Slang I'm fine with:
"Aggro"- I don't like the term, but it's the only term i know of to get attention of NPCs.
"Tank"- Well, this is in any MMO, so, it's not really a problem.
"DPS"- Although we rarely mean "Damage Per SECOND", it is useful to understand.
"HP"- Hitpoints, or health. No problem here.

I wont lecture you, but, please, for other player's gaming experience, use standard terms to help people learn how the game works.
I totally agree. Mostly because I have a little pet peve for mixing genre's. So I am all for sticking to the TOR terms. But I will add taunt and instance to the list of acceptable terms since they are generic in the same way aggro and tank are.
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Eternalnight
03.13.2012 , 11:56 AM | #20
While I have seen some stupid use of wow terms, such as people saying "auction house" when they mean GTN, which is stupid, since you can't auction anything there, but none of the ones OP listed are wow terms, but general MMO terms, and most of them fit this game perfectly.


But his worst fail was to list this:

Quote: Originally Posted by Anysao View Post
"Taunts"- I am tank-specced and I had NO idea where "taunts" come from, and took forever for me to learn that it's just to grab the attention of the enemy.
This term actually does appear in the game.
Both Jedi Guardian and Sith Juggernaut have a taunt that is actually called Taunt:
http://www.torhead.com/ability/8XuC0mD/taunt

And while some of the other classes have abilities that do the exactly same thing, but with different name
http://www.torhead.com/ability/eIEgfXH/mind-control

http://www.torhead.com/ability/2gxRkBX/neural-jolt

http://www.torhead.com/ability/6AmO3ek/neural-dart

The common term to describe all of these abilities is "taunt".

In fact this is exactly the same in this game as it was in wow. There too, only one of the four tank classes had a taunt that was actually called Taunt, but the similar abilities of all the tank classes were called commonly taunts.