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Why should I play my sniper?


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Deacons
12.28.2011 , 02:42 PM | #11
Loudent, Don't let others keep you from playing if you like the class. Most people who Fail at sniper play the class all wrong anyways. I'm 41 and I solo all the time easily, even boss mobs with adds. There isn't a problem with the class its a problem with the players not understanding the class enough to be good at it. If your in a group that is moving fast through a dungeon dont bother sitting if you don't want to. at higher levels you get shots that allow you to stand and dps and then when its an "OH CRAP" pull watch a sniper tear thru mobs like butter and save a group. Most people like to run around with glow sticks and bang on crap. Snipers take time, and reading, researching to be good.

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Baracca
12.28.2011 , 03:01 PM | #12
he's somewhat correct. a sniper should at least get some healing probe or probe with a dmg shield or something. even a full lightning sorc can shield a tank and dish out a few heals in a pinch. maybe instead of heals or defensive group skills they can add a group offensive skill like buffing probe or DOT probe.

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Frenne
12.28.2011 , 04:27 PM | #13
This game is not a 2 weeks work :P The insane near "perfection" of balance almost brings tears to my eyes. Some ppl always QQ about classes being OP this and that. I cant tell you how many times ive seen ppl whine about Troopers and BH's being this and that. Yes they wear heavy armor, have heals, decent burst dmg. But for a class like the Sniper you have utilities to make him worthless if you play it correctly.

I know im swaying a little bit from the point here, but so you understand im stressing the topic of a pure dps in PvE/PvP and what you bring to the table. About when you hit Tattooine things start getting interesting, you need to use interrupts and cc to manage and ppl know that in general. Ive seen ppl asking specificly for Snipers since we can cut thru things so fast and have such a good arsenal to keep things in check.

So if you want a class that will keep challenging you through the entire game, Sniper is the way. If you are a lazy drone that rather just stand still and press one button then run to the next one you will get nowhere

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IV_Amen
12.28.2011 , 05:31 PM | #14
Quote: Originally Posted by Frenne View Post
So if you want a class that will keep challenging you through the entire game, Sniper is the way. If you are a lazy drone that rather just stand still and press one button then run to the next one you will get nowhere
This is why I play sniper. Solo PvE is a challenge and you get to put down those neon light clowns in warzones

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RoaRawR
12.28.2011 , 07:59 PM | #15
easy

CC and kiting and you are with good use the best non speced off tank versus ballistic (abuse of ballistic damper and shield probe)

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Kursd
12.30.2011 , 10:05 AM | #16
Quote: Originally Posted by Deacons View Post
Wait you said you have a level 10 sniper and your making a judgment off that? Yes please do us a favor and dont play one. This OP has to be the most ignorant OP I have read yet. To try to critique a class by playing it to level 10 is just dumb. Is it cool to have utility well yes try getting to level 40+ and watch a snipe CC mobs for you, cause we can. How about we make it possible to drop mobs so fast CCing isnt needed (let the tank tank). Again coming on here with the mind set that you played a couple classes to 10 or so gives you an educated mind on how to play, means you went to public school while it was closed. Please play a class other than a sniper and leave the skilled classes to those who have skill.
Dude, he is asking the opinion of people who have played the class BEFORE he commits a ton of time into it. Sorry you had to take time to come off your throne and blast him for being "the most ignorant OP" Stay off the forums troll.

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MDGlean
12.30.2011 , 06:01 PM | #17
I havn't played alot of the other classes, so maybe ignorance is bliss in my case. But I can say by the time you hit your mid 30's you'll be prity tanky and have a ton of cc. I realy feel very versitile in groups. And as for finding things to hit, other classes will be having that problem with you around, dropping mobs befor ppl can get over to um.

I'm with the "play what you like" crowd. Not a big "raid" fan myself, and love the pvp stuff. But as far as doing all the normal lvling questing stuff I don't feel like my hands are tied at all.

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Achromatis
12.31.2011 , 04:59 AM | #18
Good players value good players, regardless of role. Start adding people to your friends list to run groups with.
Not Meant to Be a Factual Statement

The plural of anecdote is not data

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PFifteyOneD
12.31.2011 , 09:25 AM | #19
Quote: Originally Posted by Baracca View Post
he's somewhat correct. a sniper should at least get some healing probe or probe with a dmg shield or something. even a full lightning sorc can shield a tank and dish out a few heals in a pinch. maybe instead of heals or defensive group skills they can add a group offensive skill like buffing probe or DOT probe.
snipers get a 3 second 100% dodge ability, a shield probe that absorbs a "mnoderate amount of dmg" and Ballistic Shield, which is an AoE 20% dmg reudction ability. not to mention ballistic dampners.

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Jaxtaro
12.31.2011 , 09:53 AM | #20
Quote: Originally Posted by Deacons View Post
Loudent, Don't let others keep you from playing if you like the class. Most people who Fail at sniper play the class all wrong anyways. I'm 41 and I solo all the time easily, even boss mobs with adds. There isn't a problem with the class its a problem with the players not understanding the class enough to be good at it. If your in a group that is moving fast through a dungeon dont bother sitting if you don't want to. at higher levels you get shots that allow you to stand and dps and then when its an "OH CRAP" pull watch a sniper tear thru mobs like butter and save a group. Most people like to run around with glow sticks and bang on crap. Snipers take time, and reading, researching to be good.
Sorry, you fail at game design. If only a small number of people are able to succeed with one class, and not others, then there's a problem with the class.

I solo all the time, fairly easily as well, but I'm also realistic enough to know a few things:

1. The skill threshold of the sniper class isn't rewarded with a corresponding increase in power, DPS or the like. While there is an eventual payoff with series of shots and followthrough, the rampup in levels is too high, and the sniper throughout the early game is much too weak and vulnerable.

2. The marksmanship tree absolutely MUST have a skill which makes them immune from being taken out of cover. It's far too easy to utterly cripple a MM sniper in PvP, as he is built around being strong in cover and less than weak outside of cover.

3. Sniper CC tools are disorganized and there's too few usable outside of cover to enable any kind of survival after closed in on and removed from cover.

4. The biggest single problem with this class is the range of the primary "sniper" skills being an irrelevant distance from any other ranged skill, and not a major corresponding increase in damage to compensate. There is a strong mobility sacrifice and vulnerability to having the gap closed, there needs to be a range increase to compensate.

While it's true that snipers can be very strong 1v1, this is ONLY true if the sniper has time to set up, and gets the jump on his opponent. If the sniper is the one that gets jumped, it's a free kill for the non-sniper.

Finally, and I think this is the most irritating part of being a sniper. The RP aspect of dialogues with bosses then jumping into immediate combat is completely counter to the playstyle of snipers, and puts them at a major disadvantage against those encounters, simply because they cannot control the beginning of the fight.