Sunday - Cha Raaba Assault (Imp) / Thanium Disruption (Rep)

Sunday - Operation Foe Smasher (Imp) / Operation Clean Sweep (Rep)

 

For balance, we have decided to move one of the Sunday unlocks to Monday at some point in the future, so please watch the patch notes for this.

 

Cha Raaba Assault (Imp) / Thanium Disruption (Rep) is on Monday, not Sunday.

The future change already happened.

Poll, does anyone actually like this rotating weekly scheme they are using for these?

 

My vote = an emphatic no!

3. If you did not do the mission from the previous day, it will no longer be in your mission log, meaning these are not missions that can be collected and then completed on the last day of the week. They cycle daily rather than "reset" weekly.

 

Thanks for the clarification Amber. I think your statement in Item 3 needs to be tweaked a little bit though. It's not that the mission will not be in your mission log the next day if you do not DO the mission. It's that if you do not COLLECT the mission from the TERMINAL on the day it is available, it will no longer be available AT THE TERMINAL the next day.

 

I do, in fact, collect these missions and do them when it is convenient for me. That said, I MUST pick them up on the day that they are available. So each day I am sure to log on to each toon and pick up that day's Heroic Space Mission on that toon.

 

Does that make sense?

Edited March 11, 2013 by Fubarq

I do, in fact, collect these missions and do them when it is convenient for me. That said, I MUST pick them up on the day that they are available. So each day I am sure to log on to each toon and pick up that day's Heroic Space Mission on that toon.

Yep, this is how it's done by most people. And it's way better solution than missions disapeparing from quest log next day. It would be way better if those missions were like basic weekly missions, avaible to pickup any day after they reset, as that would eliminate "must login and at least pickup mission" issue. But changing it to "must login and do mission untill I sucedd on all my chars" (way it's supposed to work according to Amber post) would be rather bad for players.

And it would make them unlike any other daily/weekly mission in the game. There's nothing else that I can think of that MUST be completed on a certain day of the week. If I pick up a black hole daily, I can do it tomorrow if I want to. I really don't think they intended it to be that way...but who knows

Yep, this is how it's done by most people. And it's way better solution than missions disapeparing from quest log next day. It would be way better if those missions were like basic weekly missions, avaible to pickup any day after they reset, as that would eliminate "must login and at least pickup mission" issue. But changing it to "must login and do mission untill I sucedd on all my chars" (way it's supposed to work according to Amber post) would be rather bad for players.

 

I agree this is a poor method. This means if people have certain times of day that they are regularly unable to play, then they never do the missions on those days. Instead you do the same 2 or 3 over and over again.

3. If you did not do the mission from the previous day, it will no longer be in your mission log, meaning these are not missions that can be collected and then completed on the last day of the week. They cycle daily rather than "reset" weekly.

 

100% False. This is misinformation and should be corrected immediately. I collect the missions in my log all the time. I'm doing a whole bunch of them I collected from previous days right now.

 

I love the way it is now. It's great for people who have less time to play. This is great functionality and if they change this, I'd be pissed. If they worked like Amber said, it would only be great for people who have lots of time to waste and/or love wasting their time.

Edited March 11, 2013 by LetoAtreidesII

100% False. This is misinformation and should be corrected immediately. I collect the missions in my log all the time. I'm doing a whole bunch of them I collected from previous days right now.

 

I love the way it is now. It's great for people who have less time to play. This is great functionality and if they change this, I'd be pissed. If they worked like Amber said, it would only be great for people who have lots of time to waste and/or love wasting their time.

 

SSSSHHHHHHHT! Don't tell them that. They might "fix" it.

Hi folks,

 

I just wanted to pop in to give a bit more clarification about Heroic Space Combat missions, because there seems to be some confusion:

 

1. The mission for the day is available at 6AM CST (4AM PST/7AM EST/12PM GMT/1PM CET/11PM AEDT)

2. That mission is then available until 6AM CST (4AM PST/7AM EST/12PM GMT/1PM CET/11PM AEDT) the following day.

3. If you did not do the mission from the previous day, it will no longer be in your mission log, meaning these are not missions that can be collected and then completed on the last day of the week. They cycle daily rather than "reset" weekly.

 

 

Additionally, the following is the current schedule for Heroic Space Combat missions:

 

Tuesday - Far Cradle Strike (Imp) / Regnant Station (Rep)

Wednesday - Kabal Station Defense (Imp) / Ardis Outpost Fortification (Rep)

Thursday - Kanz Minefield (Imp) / New Covar Ice Field (Rep)

Friday - Duma Strike (Imp) / Baros Ambush (Rep)

Saturday - Lorta Escort (Imp) / Hypori Escort (Rep)

Sunday - Cha Raaba Assault (Imp) / Thanium Disruption (Rep)

Sunday - Operation Foe Smasher (Imp) / Operation Clean Sweep (Rep)

 

For balance, we have decided to move one of the Sunday unlocks to Monday at some point in the future; I'll be looking into that and will update with more info as soon as possible.

 

I'm currently looking into what the OP has said now, but if you feel that there's a bug or issue knowing all of the information above, please post in this thread with your details so we can investigate. Have fun out there!

 

And I have to ask (again), just as other have asked - why were these put on this rotation in the first place and not on the same kind of schedule as every other daily/weekly mission in the game? You've intentionally made it difficult on people that cannot login each day, so please explain the justification/reasoning/logic behind this design (please).

You've intentionally made it difficult on people that cannot login each day, so please explain the justification/reasoning/logic behind this design (please).

 

To get you to log in every day.

SSSSHHHHHHHT! Don't tell them that. They might "fix" it.

 

This ^^.

I too would like to voice my concern on them "fixing" the ability to collect the dailies and do them at the end of the week. For some of my guild mates it is essential due to their schedules. Sometimes its just more convenient.

 

It also saddens me that her info is incorrect. The fact that we CAN hoard the missions AND the fact that the Monday thing happened WEEKS ago.

And it would make them unlike any other daily/weekly mission in the game. There's nothing else that I can think of that MUST be completed on a certain day of the week. If I pick up a black hole daily, I can do it tomorrow if I want to. I really don't think they intended it to be that way...but who knows

 

But you can't pick another one up every day. THe day you turn it in is the day it's "completed"; you just don't get to choose it 7 times over the course of the week and do 7 HM Flashpoints for 40 Black Hole Commendations -- or whatever.

SSSSHHHHHHHT! Don't tell them that. They might "fix" it.

I had thought that the way things are now (being able to save up missions) was the intended design, and that Amber had simply made an error in her post. I'm no longer certain about that, though I still hope the status quo is intended.

 

If it is not intended, I'm hoping Bioware has the wisdom to not be douches and leave things as they are despite it not being their original plan. The status quo is convenient for many players and doesn't give anyone any game-breaking advantage:

 

I too would like to voice my concern on them "fixing" the ability to collect the dailies and do them at the end of the week. For some of my guild mates it is essential due to their schedules. Sometimes its just more convenient.

 

You still have to log in every day to pick them up and you have to finish them within a week; you can't save up multiple copies of the same mission. Even if it wasn't your original design intent, things are good, please leave them be.

Edited March 12, 2013 by LetoAtreidesII

I too would like to voice my concern on them "fixing" the ability to collect the dailies and do them at the end of the week. For some of my guild mates it is essential due to their schedules. Sometimes its just more convenient.

 

It also saddens me that her info is incorrect. The fact that we CAN hoard the missions AND the fact that the Monday thing happened WEEKS ago.

 

Daily HMs reward 5 BH comms a day, yet no one complains that your schedule might prevent you from running one HM every day to collect your 35 comms a week. That's the same deal (it should be) with the space heroics, tough luck if you can't log in every day.

Daily HMs reward 5 BH comms a day, yet no one complains that your schedule might prevent you from running one HM every day to collect your 35 comms a week. That's the same deal (it should be) with the space heroics, tough luck if you can't log in every day.

 

Because different aspects of the game are perfectly analogous, right? Heroic space mission dailies are 3-6 minute completely solitary affairs that are mission/map specific and require no queue. Group finder hard mode dailies are group affairs that take considerably more time, require a queue, and are not mission/map specific. PvP dailies are also non-specific group queue affairs but require you to complete 2-4 of them.

 

In order for all these dailies to be consistent, they should all be group queue activities, be specific to a particular map/flashpoint, and require you to complete 2-4 of them. Or you could recognize that different aspects of the game are different.

 

First, you do still need to log in every day to "save up" the HSM dailies. The way HM group finder dailies are structured, it wouldn't even be possible to save them up because they are not map specific. The reason nobody complains that you can't save those up is because you couldn't make it so you can save them up without altering them fundamentally; they are the same mission every day.

 

HSM dailies were completely different from the get-go because they are map-specific and have a scheduled weekly rotation with no randomness to it. If a person only has time to do HSM dailies on two specific days of the week, they'd be doing the same two space missions every single week. They'd never ever see the other four missions and it would get pretty old quick. That's not the case with Group Finder dailies, which would be random no matter what day of the week you played. So if you could only play on Wednesdays, you would only ever see one particular space mission (Kabal Station Defense (Imp) / Ardis Outpost Fortification (Rep)) with no possibility of anything different , but you could potentially see a different Group Finder dungeon every time.

Whatever it is, bioware just leave it alone. This is the LAST THING you would want to fix as there are plenty of other bugs that COULD BE addressed rather than some stupid space mission bugs that nobody is complaining about, AT ALL.

 

Let's address some issues like the Kaon Rakghoul Boss (the one with the exploding tanks) bugging out sometimes and can not be debuffed by the tanks anymore, or the disconnects people experience in Esseles and Black Talon (when there is a hyperjump animating in the backround). EVEN cosmetic bugs that happen on items that I HAPPEN TO HAVE PAYED FOR (such as the warmaster double bladed lightsaber on one ending disappearing glitch and the new vibroblade disappearing) should be addressed.

And what about all the broken codecs that never been fixed since day one (I know a lot of people do not care about this but there are a large handful that do.)

 

I bet now they are trying to fix that even if you pick up the mission, once the day resets, the mission will disappear from your log. WATCH AS IT HAPPENS.

Whatever it is, bioware just leave it alone. This is the LAST THING you would want to fix as...

 

I bet now they are trying to fix that even if you pick up the mission, once the day resets, the mission will disappear from your log. WATCH AS IT HAPPENS.

 

Agreed. There's no good reason to mess with it, and it would be very very easy to break them again altogether if messed with. I remember how they were broken for over a month after release. It was so hard just to get them working at all.

 

On top of that, it makes sense for it to stay the way it is. Unlike other dailies, HSM dailies are mission specific on a static schedule. What this means is that if someone only has time to play on two specific days of the week, say Friday and Saturday, they will only ever see the same two space missions every week (Baros Ambush and Hypori Escort). At least the way ti is now, as long as they have 30 seconds to log in and pick it up from the terminal, they can do dailies from other days of the week. But if it is changed, they will never be able to do dailies for space missions besides Baros Ambush and Hypori Escort every single week. They will never see Regnant, Ardis, Covar, or Thanium.

 

Other dailies like the GF daily and PvP daily don't have this problem because they are completely random, non-specific, with no schedule. So even if you can only play on Friday and Saturday, you could potentially see different flashpoints and warzones every time.

 

Don't be mad! This isn't a bug and it will not be changing. We recognize that the change is a good thing and it was intended based off of your feedback. It was done both because it prevents the confusion of a totally different in-game system and (more importantly) because it's how you wanted and preferrd the system to work after you had a chance to try it out.

 

Increased communication with all of you has been awesome. Again, I genuinely apologize for my own confusion and for providing misinformation. Hopefully the clarification above makes sense for everyone!

 

 

Thanks so much Amber for once again participating in this thread and for helping us clarify how this is meant to work. The communication is very much appreciated!!!

 

That said, I found your last couple paragraphs a tiny bit hard to follow so I just want to ask one clarifying question to be sure. You are saying that the current system will NOT be changed, correct?

Edited March 13, 2013 by Fubarq

Thanks Amber!!!