Dear SCORPIO,

 

Look, I get it. You're lookin' out for #1. Most of my characters understand that way of thinking well enough.

I also know you're gonna stab us in the back with a rusty pike.

 

But c'mon, can't you be cool? Like, just once, be cool. Just. once. One time. Be cool.

 

Sincerely,

the Oakes Legacy (minus Kover, my Cipher 9... 'cause he has, like, 24 different back up plans for when SCORPIO goes haywire)

SCORPIO seems so suspicious and sinister all the time that I am convinced it's a red herring, and if anyone betrays us it will be someone who you wouldn't see coming from a 1000 miles away. Edited June 11, 2016 by alricka

SCORPIO seems so suspicious and sinister all the time that I am convinced it's a red herring, and if anyone betrays us it will be someone who you wouldn't see coming from a 1000 miles away.

 

I kind of hope it's a multiple choice deal, and not one locked in traitor.

 

Like say, if you force chocked Tora? She's the one that snitches your base out to Arcann. But if you didn't, maybe it's Koth if you have been screwing with civvies but not badly enough to drive him away. But maybe if it's none of them, then they go to Scorpio.

 

But I know it won't be. As much as I have liked a lot of what KOTFE has had to offer, it has been as subtle as a jackhammer.

BW isn't clever enough to have someone else betray us.

 

It won't be a romance. It won't be some character you choked once. It will be Scorpio and then probably Senya who can't bring herself to kill her own daughter.

i think Lana is going to betray us. Or rather, I wish it was someone I actually cared about as a character that betrayed us. I think the betrayal is so much better, when it is someone that you have gotten to know pretty well throughout the story. Something like Solas. Edited June 11, 2016 by cool-dude

SCORPIO, Senya and Koth are the only real possibilities I think.

 

I doubt Senya, and Koth may not be around anymore (although he could still betray you from afar by revealing the base location).

 

Al things consider, I have a hard time seeing it not SCORPIO.

SCORPIO seems so suspicious and sinister all the time that I am convinced it's a red herring, and if anyone betrays us it will be someone who you wouldn't see coming from a 1000 miles away.

 

Nah. BioWare's storytellers aren't that good.

I feel like minority who does not have problem with Scorpio possibly betraying us? Unlike some suggestions here it would actually make sense story wise. Edited June 11, 2016 by Chaloss

SCORPIO, Senya and Koth are the only real possibilities I think.

If we are speaking about voluntary betrayal. If not, then count T7 in. And almost anyone sentient among the "main characters".

 

I feel like minority who does not have problem with Scorpio possibly betraying us? Unlike some suggestions here it would actually make sense story wise.

It would make sense, but it would be quite predictable.

I would love for Outlander to actually have a back up plan instead of acting like its a huge suprise or they never seen it coming or they seen it coming but done nothing about it. Bc now Outlander look even more lazy then Arcann - seing a potential problem and not moving a finger to prevent it.

If we are speaking about voluntary betrayal. If not, then count T7 in. And almost anyone sentient among the "main characters".

 

 

It would make sense, but it would be quite predictable.

 

I just don't see Lana or even Theron pulling a Lando (betraying your friends because you think it's for the greater good. Likely followed by successful redemption.)

I can see T7 being sliced to **** with the Outlander.

I would love for Outlander to actually have a back up plan instead of acting like its a huge suprise or they never seen it coming or they seen it coming but done nothing about it. Bc now Outlander look even more lazy then Arcann - seing a potential problem and not moving a finger to prevent it.

 

Yeah.

 

Dear Scorpio you will find I've had you re-programmed so I can take control of you at any time. Also just in case your unique droid configuration makes this unwieldy I have installed explosives in you. Should they not receive a new deactivation code ever day they will turn you into slag. Given your primary objective is self improvement slag vs anything you will have to chose anything I say or rewrite your own primary directive, in which case I don't much care cause you will be destroyed.

 

I think the argument isn't so much that Scorpio makes sense or even if she is the only one that makes sense. Rather how it is handled, you have someone you don't trust forced on you at every step, then they betray you and your like Options 1) Oh no I never saw that coming how could she. Option 2) I knew you were going to betray me but never did anything to stop it cause I'm retarded! Option 3) I'm going to get you for this, only then I will be told by Lana I don't have the resources despite having completed every alliance alert, an infinite treasure and 20 at influence for each. But Lana obviously runs things so we will do what she wants.

 

It boils down to is this an MMORPG with mature story telling and intelligence choices or is it a childish cartoon where nothing you do has any effect on the 15 minute cartoon you get each month and the devs should just offer it as a telltale game taking out the game elements. If Scorpio turns out to be the traitor its going to be the later and a rehash of Quinn.

I'd say Senya will be the one to betray you when you deal with Arcann. She's already made it clear she wants Arcann to "Answer" for what he's done. Well, my SI isn't interested in any answers he may have. Simply my SI just wants to remove the remainder of his head with a lightsaber. Simple.

 

Senya won't agree with that. Heck even my LS characters are 100% aboard with just killing him.

I just don't see Lana or even Theron pulling a Lando (betraying your friends because you think it's for the greater good. Likely followed by successful redemption.)

I can see T7 being sliced to **** with the Outlander.

I can see them being influenced without even their knowledge. After all, we do not know all that happened to them throughout these five years.

 

I'd say Senya will be the one to betray you when you deal with Arcann. She's already made it clear she wants Arcann to "Answer" for what he's done. Well, my SI isn't interested in any answers he may have. Simply my SI just wants to remove the remainder of his head with a lightsaber. Simple.

 

Senya won't agree with that. Heck even my LS characters are 100% aboard with just killing him.

It seemed clear to me that Senya wants Arcann to be judged and punished accordingly. If it will be death - so be it, though perhaps she will not be able to do it herself. "To answer for the crimes" always had this meaning.

It seemed clear to me that Senya wants Arcann to be judged and punished accordingly. If it will be death - so be it, though perhaps she will not be able to do it herself. "To answer for the crimes" always had this meaning.

 

Talk is cheap. She spared Vaylin, despite promising that she would do "whatever is necessary". Senya doesnt have the stomach to end Arcann or Vaylin despite how atrocious they both are, I doubt the next time she faces Vaylin she will survive too. Senya had her chance and blew it.

 

My SI is happy to be judge jury and executioner. I will say this... if Senya tries to stop my SI if theres an option to kill her my SI will do it. Nobody is going to stop him jamming that fancy marr/shan magic lightsaber down ar anns throat.

Let's just hope I can get her back on my IAs through the console cause it'll really suck to lose 50 influence Scorpios on 3 of my crafters

Talk is cheap. She spared Vaylin, despite promising that she would do "whatever is necessary". Senya doesnt have the stomach to end Arcann or Vaylin despite how atrocious they both are, I doubt the next time she faces Vaylin she will survive too. Senya had her chance and blew it.

 

My SI is happy to be judge jury and executioner. I will say this... if Senya tries to stop my SI if theres an option to kill her my SI will do it. Nobody is going to stop him jamming that fancy marr/shan magic lightsaber down ar anns throat.

 

Not even going to be a jury with my IA. It's 2 to the chest and 1 in the head. Then burning the body and sending the ashes into the nearest star just to be damn sure they are dead.

I can see it being Scorpio based on the interactions we have had with her. She made it clear from the beginning she had her reasons for joining us and she never let anyone know her reasons. Even with my agent, there has always been a mistrust with Scorpio and she even admitted once to my agent if she got the chance she would kill her so my agent has been expecting Scorpio to betray her since.

 

Regarding the rest the way she joined the alliance has left them wondering about how trustworthy she really is.

Edited June 13, 2016 by casirabit

I don't think we will be betrayed by our companions. My thought goes for the stupid act to bring the Gemini captain into our base. They are intelligent enough to track the missing captain and so locate our base. So if my theory is correct expect an attack by the eternal fleet soon. Edited June 12, 2016 by Astyth

Actually, let us try and guess who may be the traitor, if we take that one of the companions may become so. Reasons are completely different thing - be that programming, mind influence, blackmail or personal reasons.

The assumptions are based on various parts of the story, so they go under the spoiler tag.

 

 

 

 

Of course, they may go another path. Again, under tag as it is spoiler for a completely different game - Dawn of War II.

 

 

And, of course, they can go another path and show us that the betrayal is something completely different and not about companions. But that is quite a different topic.

I'm surprised no one has mentioned the Scions. Heskal did promise each one would return in his or her time to the Outlander, and given that Heskal's definition of "ally" includes inviting your mortal enemy to your hideout, they also seem a logical choice.

 

Lana is a pragmatist, but I don't see her choosing to betray the Outlander at this point.

 

Senya might try to stop me from killing Vailyn and/or Arcann, but I don't think she'd betray me in the purest sense.

 

 

 

 

Still, SCORPIO does seem the most likely.

Edited June 13, 2016 by phalczen

I'm surprised no one has mentioned the Scions. Heskal did promise each one would return in his or her time to the Outlander, and given that Heskal's definition of "ally" includes inviting your mortal enemy to your hideout, they also seem a logical choice.

 

Lana is a pragmatist, but I don't see her choosing to betray the Outlander at this point.

 

Senya might try to stop me from killing Vailyn and/or Arcann, but I don't think she'd betray me in the purest sense.

 

 

Valkorion did disappear during Chapter 12 saying there were urgent matters that required his attention, and he hasn't been back since. Valkorion is clearly not bound to the Outlander the same way the sith force ghots from the SI story are, although Arcann perceives a need to "rid" the Outlander of his father (as he says in the Scion's hideout in chapter 8):

 

So, I wouldn't put it past Valkorion to betray the Outlander.

 

 

Still, SCORPIO does seem the most likely.

 

My guess is they're gonna pop-up in Chapter 16 with the whole force enclave (where all the Force companions are doing there thing with Ghost-Marr and **** Shan)

I've killed all the Sith companions I've come across so far where that was a choice, but not the cool ones like Vette and that horned guy, but wasn't able to kill Scorpio.

 

I was pretty disappointed that we couldn't equip Vette with an assault cannon after that fun little adventure.

 

Still, they've telegraphed it hard, focus on Scorpios face, her unwillingness to reveal her origins, and then Gemeni Deception, oh thanks Bioware.

Given a choice between Arcann and SCORPIO as villain, I prefer SCORPIO. I think she's a better fit in a storyline which has to accommodate force users and non-force users alike. In fact, I wish we'd had a brains-over-brawn antagonist from the beginning, one who had and used every method to take the Outlander down except one-on-one brute force duels.

 

On the other hand, once again being betrayed by someone you were forced to make part of your team, will-ye-nil-ye... really, BioWare? Really? *sigh* Move over, Solas and Quinn...

Is SCORPIO even capable of betraying the Agent? Remember the programming that was put in her on Belsavis which kept her from doing just that?