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Healers don't belong in PvP, at least nerf this OP garbage

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Healers don't belong in PvP, at least nerf this OP garbage

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Ylliarus
06.23.2019 , 06:45 AM | #41
Quote: Originally Posted by CaptainObvius View Post
You know I posted a thread back when I left the game about how I was just absolutely sick and tired of playing every match watching healers just stand there healing people all day while being nearly unkillable.

Seems years later they still haven't learned their lesson. It's almost like they don't give a crap about PvP at all.

I feel healers do not belong in PvP at all, ever, in any game, forever forward and hope every MMO from now on is more like Blade and Soul where there are no stupid healers.

But at the very least for the love of god do something about this crap in this game.

Every single match, and I mean EVERY single match, healers are healing 20-40% more damage than dps are able to dish out.

That's cause healers are balanced around PvE content. You know big giant mobs that can 2 shot a dps. They're not balanced for PvP at all.

My last game is just like every game. Top damage is 3.2mil. Top healers are 3.5mil, 4.8mil and 5.2mil.

Total deaths was like 10? for a 15 minute game?

That's less than 1 death per minute in an 8v8 match. Give, me, a break.

And I can't wait to hear the 'git gud' or 'learn your rotation' or 'stun him' or 'cc him' replies. Can't wait to hear them for sure they are coming.

Cause you know when there's 6 of us all beating on one healer, stunning him, inteerrping him, knocking him backwards, while he just sits there spamming heals and getting healed by another healer, it's obviously a 'git gud' situation right?

PvP heavily needs diminishing returns on healers. I could list you 5 very very good reasons why healers don't belong in PvP at all and what makes them just stupidly OP compared to tanks or dps but you know this is long enough already.

Just wondering how long is this going to continue before someone on the PvP team actually gives a crap and does something about it? Or do they feel getting 10 kills in a 15 minute match, that's less than 1 death per minute and less than 1 death average per person, is fair fun and balanced PvP game?

Edit:

Lemme take this a step further just to explain how absolute retarded your PvP is in this game.

Healers are standing in the acid in your games sitting there healing themselves to pad their stats. Which is dumb in and of itself. However when we pile up on guys standing in the acid they STILL don't die. They just stand there healing away all the meanwhile laughing at the 5 dps smashing their faces in. I saw a guy last a good 45 seconds or more while standing in the acid before he finally tele'd off once he realized he was going to do.

Just how farking stupid can the game get people? Seriously.
You're so wrong, mate. I get the feeling you're just angry you keep losing due to your own inability to fight healers properly. Healers are an essential part of PVP, thanks to them I've had many successful games where we won with flying colours due to excellent healing skills from those players. But I have also had pvp matches where the healers sadly didn't really know what to do and we lost badly.

What you're proposing is absolutely garbage (sorry not sorry) because you just want an entire advanced class specialisation removed because you yourself are unable to handle them properly in a fight. You want to enforce your own view onto the rest of the playerbase and that my friend is the unfair thing in this entire situation. If you are unable to counter healers, learn how to fight them properly. If you can't be bothered to do that, then there is nothing and no one else to blame except yourself for your own unwillingness to learn.
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Storm-Cutter
06.23.2019 , 10:35 AM | #42
Quote: Originally Posted by DavidAtkinson View Post
Such a pointless thread....


Heals aren't a problem. The problem is that regs is made up of random people who usually don't coordinate and just fight random targets or run around doing nothing until they die.

Since 5.0 the quality of PVP has dropped considerably so the MAIN problem is that those who know what they;re doing aren't the majority in PVP que.
This is also a valid point. - Since even an idiot like me can top the leaderboards or at least get into top 3 in at least two or 3 columns in most matches - sometimes even with classes I don't have much experience with....

This must mean the standard has dropped considerably.
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CaptainObvius
06.23.2019 , 05:11 PM | #43
Quote: Originally Posted by TrixxieTriss View Post
If 5 of you are hitting a Healer in acid, what form of pvp are you playing?

Because there are only 2 types of acid.
The acid at the end of arena, which would mean there was only 4 of you maximum Or Hutt Ball acid, which would mean you really are bad because the acid can kill a healer by itself if they stand in it for 60 secs.

So at this stage. I’m calling bull **** on the whole statement.
There's 8 people in a huttball game. It's entirely possible for 5 of us to be there in the middle smacking on a stupid healer cause i knocked him back into the acid and everyone decided to leap on him.

There's those little vats of acid on each side of the huttball. If you wanna sit here ana be nitpicky about what to call it maybe it's not 'acid' maybe it's called something else. All I know is when you stand in it you take damage. So I am for lack of a better term, calling it acid.

What's so hard to understand about this?

This wasn't the only instance I've seen of this. I've had multiple times where 4+ people are beating on one healer and the *********** ********er just doesn't die. It's not cause he's skilled. It's not cause he's a great player. It's cause he has more than likely all 258+ gear and healers are OP AF in this game moreso than compared to any other the game in history of PvP.

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CaptainObvius
06.23.2019 , 05:14 PM | #44
Quote: Originally Posted by Ylliarus View Post
You're so wrong, mate. I get the feeling you're just angry you keep losing due to your own inability to fight healers properly. Healers are an essential part of PVP, thanks to them I've had many successful games where we won with flying colours due to excellent healing skills from those players. But I have also had pvp matches where the healers sadly didn't really know what to do and we lost badly.
Translation:

"I've been carried by healers, because they are extremely OP and made up for my lack of skill. I've never been carried by a DPS because you know, they aren't nearly as strong as healer. In fact if you have a bad healer on your team you're probably going to lose. But if you have a bad DPS on your team it's OK cause the healer may end up carrying him"

Thanks for proving my point of the entire thread bro.

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KendraP
06.23.2019 , 05:16 PM | #45
Quote: Originally Posted by CaptainObvius View Post
There's 8 people in a huttball game. It's entirely possible for 5 of us to be there in the middle smacking on a stupid healer cause i knocked him back into the acid and everyone decided to leap on him.

There's those little vats of acid on each side of the huttball. If you wanna sit here ana be nitpicky about what to call it maybe it's not 'acid' maybe it's called something else. All I know is when you stand in it you take damage. So I am for lack of a better term, calling it acid.

What's so hard to understand about this?

This wasn't the only instance I've seen of this. I've had multiple times where 4+ people are beating on one healer and the *********** ********er just doesn't die. It's not cause he's skilled. It's not cause he's a great player. It's cause he has more than likely all 258+ gear and healers are OP AF in this game moreso than compared to any other the game in history of PvP.
Oh they understood what you're saying.

The point Trixxie was trying (albeit not so eloquently) to make is actually rather simple.

If 5 dps are whacking on a healer and the healer isn't dying, the dps are just bad.

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TrixxieTriss
06.23.2019 , 09:23 PM | #46
Quote: Originally Posted by KendraP View Post
Oh they understood what you're saying.

The point Trixxie was trying (albeit not so eloquently) to make is actually rather simple.

If 5 dps are whacking on a healer and the healer isn't dying, the dps are just bad.
This ^^

ESPECIALLY if they are standing in acid, which is causing its own damage and affecting their speed.

Honestly, if 5 people can’t kill a healer in acid, then they are worse than bad, they are terrible.

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foxmob
06.23.2019 , 09:26 PM | #47
Quote: Originally Posted by TrixxieTriss View Post
This ^^

ESPECIALLY if they are standing in acid, which is causing its own damage and affecting their speed.

Honestly, if 5 people can’t kill a healer in acid, then they are worse than bad, they are terrible.
he's probably talking about a sage in barrier (who's doing no healing, btw, and is the only way any class can survive in acid).

edit: crap! I took the bait. stop replying to this fool.
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TrixxieTriss
06.23.2019 , 09:52 PM | #48
Quote: Originally Posted by CaptainObvius View Post
There's 8 people in a huttball game. It's entirely possible for 5 of us to be there in the middle smacking on a stupid healer cause i knocked him back into the acid and everyone decided to leap on him.

There's those little vats of acid on each side of the huttball. If you wanna sit here ana be nitpicky about what to call it maybe it's not 'acid' maybe it's called something else. All I know is when you stand in it you take damage. So I am for lack of a better term, calling it acid.

What's so hard to understand about this?

This wasn't the only instance I've seen of this. I've had multiple times where 4+ people are beating on one healer and the *********** ********er just doesn't die. It's not cause he's skilled. It's not cause he's a great player. It's cause he has more than likely all 258+ gear and healers are OP AF in this game moreso than compared to any other the game in history of PvP.
I understand just fine. It’s you who has a problem understanding that if you can’t dps, you can’t kill a healer.
258 gear really has nothing to do with it in WZ or arena environment because Bolster is relatively good these days.

I hate to say this to anyone, but your problems and those around you is a L2P issue. Most people these days can’t kill anything, it doesn’t matter if they are healer of not.
I watch 5 people chase “non” healers all over the maps and not be able to kill them or it takes all 5 of them to kill the one person.

I often find myself in 1v3+ situation and people cannot kill me. It doesn’t even seem to matter what class I’m on. They are just terrible at dps and they don’t know their class or the class they are fighting.
I should not be able to survive against 3 players. I probably shouldn’t be able to survive against 2 players. What amazes me is when I solo kill 2-3 at once because they don’t even know what a DCD is and can’t hit their way out of a wet paper bag.

I’m not that good, people are just soooooooo bad these days and that is the point everyone here is trying to make to you and you aren’t understanding. Healers are fine as they are. People just need to L2P

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TrixxieTriss
06.23.2019 , 09:53 PM | #49
Quote: Originally Posted by foxmob View Post
he's probably talking about a sage in barrier (who's doing no healing, btw, and is the only way any class can survive in acid).

edit: crap! I took the bait. stop replying to this fool.
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Rion_Starkiller
06.24.2019 , 08:52 AM | #50
5 pages.

I guess this is a 10/10 troll thread. Good job OP.
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