keitzy Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 (edited) The Primal Vine Cat does way to much damage for a rank 1 heals to handle. I am in DVL XP set so my armor rating is 128. The Cat hits for 25k each hit and the add's destroy my companion. I am all for hard content but I have never ever in any games in 20 years + put the game difficulty back down to easy. Either let us have our rank 50 companion or nerf the stupid fight. Everyone in chat are dying over and over to this beast. Don't tell me to get gud because I am a nightmare raider and 1st /2nd top rankin in regs/ranked pvp so I know my class very well and my rotation. Currently on a Lethality Operative. EDIt gave up on my Operative and jumped on my merc. GOt past Vine cat, 2nd Geno but the last Geno is way too hard. Edited November 30, 2016 by keitzy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keitzy Posted November 29, 2016 Author Share Posted November 29, 2016 Finding out that 224 set bonus geared NIM raiders are getting smashed as well and some jsut barely beating it. SO back to story mode until I can grind out some better gear in 3 months time. Should be about skill not gear. Bad mistake bioware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keitzy Posted November 29, 2016 Author Share Posted November 29, 2016 Switched to story mode, left comp on tank didn't even fight just watched her kill the lot with no help from me. Great balance!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldcite Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 Next part of that chapter is kind of bullcrap as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trashy_spartan Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 (edited) The only way they found to make it hard is to get the comp being killed rather than the player. Edited November 29, 2016 by trashy_spartan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionflash Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 Do you use defensive cooldowns? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamtas Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 were level 1 healers clearing HMs 5 levels under max prior to KOTET? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alssaran Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 Should be about skill not gear. Bad mistake bioware. I just defeated that cat in Veteran mode with a 216 set bonus sage. The trick is to attempt to kite/CC it and slowly damage it down. An AoE attack like Sweeping Blaster/Telekinetic Wave/Whirlwind Strike/Vigilant Thrust helps to get rid of the adds. Attempt to kill two adds seperately from the group just before they reach Acina. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevaelin Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 I beat the cats on Vet ... but the three assassin elites later on destroyed me. I'm guessing veteran is intended more for a replay, or a second character than for your first playthrough. Can't really object to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trashy_spartan Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 (edited) I've finished KOTET veteran mode and all chapters except DK were brain dead easy. So chapter 2 is definitively overtuned. My guess is that chapter 2 is tuned for master mode not veteran mode. I beat with it my jugg in 208 pvp gear and I increased acina influence rank to 15. In comparison, the final fights with Arcann, Vaylin and valkorion were a huge let down because they were tedious and boring. Edited November 30, 2016 by trashy_spartan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quangus Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 Oh that´s very good to know then... I noticed that the trash/mobs were already hitting harder in chapter 1 and once I reached the GenoHaradan bossfights it was like the hardest thing I ever attempted solo on my marauder. I died so often and thought that I really must have done something wrong fundamentally. But turns out they just do waayy more damage than usual, it seems. Was almost convinced sm is the way to go, but if it´s really just this dk part then I´m gonna ask for some backup temporarly and continue the rest on veteran since apart from all this dying recently, I am very enjoying the challenge and the story so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andryah Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 (edited) Well I guess that puts the popular and over used meme of "game is too easy" to rest now, doesn't it? Pretty well nukes the "companions are over powered" meme too. Edited November 30, 2016 by Andryah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andryah Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 (edited) Switched to story mode, left comp on tank didn't even fight just watched her kill the lot with no help from me. Great balance!!!! Just to note: veteran mode was stated as tuned to a companion level of 20 minimum. Are you being forced to use a level 1 companion by the encounter? Edited November 30, 2016 by Andryah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quangus Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 Just to note: veteran mode was stated as tuned to a companion level of 20 minimum. Are you being forced to use a level 1 companion by the encounter? Yes. At least so far I do not see an option to fight with another companion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andryah Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 Yes. At least so far I do not see an option to fight with another companion. Well, if true, bug report it so they can fix it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quangus Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 It´s not a bug. You are forced to run with that companion storywise. (no spoilers since i don´t know how much you really know so far.) But I guess that could be changed with some gifts. Too bad I didn´t care before lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkbloom Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 I've finished KOTET veteran mode and all chapters except DK were brain dead easy. So chapter 2 is definitively overtuned. My guess is that chapter 2 is tuned for master mode not veteran mode. I beat with it my jugg in 208 pvp gear and I increased acina influence rank to 15. I can get past the vine cat but I'm having a hell of a time with the assassins. What kill order did you use for that fight? Maybe I just need to get Acina's influence up a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ludoviccb Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 (edited) I can get past the vine cat but I'm having a hell of a time with the assassins. What kill order did you use for that fight? Maybe I just need to get Acina's influence up a lot. I've done it on my sentinel, I LOS the entire group behind a rock on the side of the cliff after the shuttle. It made things a lot easier to clear since they are all stacked up. That was with Acina at influence 1. Edited November 30, 2016 by ludoviccb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazanth Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 Same, the only way I got past the Genoharadan group was with LoS abuse, and it certainly wasn't fun. Turned me off Veteran for the rest of the story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkbloom Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 I've done it on my sentinel, I LOS the entire group behind a rock on the side of the cliff after the shuttle. It made things a lot easier to clear since they are all stacked up. That was with Acina at influence 1. YEAH!!!! I did it, I did it, I did it! Woohoo! And I even beat those three gena-whatevers in the temple. Holy cow that was hard. This is the greatest expansion ever. Holy moley that was awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxan Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 I absolutely confirm the last fight on chapter 2 is nigh impossible with low lvl companion on Veteran. Did everything else on 216/220 gear on my lvl 67 vigilance guardian but that fight.... Currently on chapter 5 with little to no problems on Veteran. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keitzy Posted November 30, 2016 Author Share Posted November 30, 2016 (edited) I absolutely confirm the last fight on chapter 2 is nigh impossible with low lvl companion on Veteran. Did everything else on 216/220 gear on my lvl 67 vigilance guardian but that fight.... Currently on chapter 5 with little to no problems on Veteran. 206440 damage from the Leader on Acina. 3 x her HP pool. I keep geting two shotted. I cc the other elite and try to fight the leader but his damage is over the top. being grappled, laggy servers and overtuned damage is not fun. I am all for hard content but this is absolute trash. Where is the middle ground. Story mode is joke but veteran chapter 2 is way too overtuned. Edited November 30, 2016 by keitzy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaldron_Fell Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 I defeated that cat with a 216 gear character. No set bonus. DPS char. Not seeing a problem there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exly Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 (edited) Well, if true, bug report it so they can fix it. It's not a bug, it is a design choice. They do not force people to do the content, but they do enforce the use of certain companions if you choose to do it. Edited November 30, 2016 by Exly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exly Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 (edited) Well I guess that puts the popular and over used meme of "game is too easy" to rest now, doesn't it? Pretty well nukes the "companions are over powered" meme too. Wait until people get good gear, then it will be easy again. Also, companions got a nerffed hard last year before being boosted to their current level of power (which is less than what they had at 4.0 launch). Back then people were kicking healers from flashpoints because companion healers were more powerful than players. It was a problem back then and EA fixed it. Edited November 30, 2016 by Exly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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