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Arccai

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Hello,

 

I'm curious regarding this matter, i've been looking around on dulfy but for some reason each guide talks down on its class.

 

This subject might create kitty fights due to opinions, but this question refers straight to evidence based of calculations/raid logs, and not personal opinions.

 

How would you describe a Top5 list of dps classes purely focused on single targets?

 

Assuming the other fields such as survivability, crowd controlling, mobility are irrelevant.

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For finding an answer to this, I think it would be a good idea to follow the results of the 1v1 tournament on July, 2nd : http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=884362

 

How that will help him? The best 1v1 class in the game is concealment operative, and AFAIK it has the worst single target damage in the game. I think he asks about pve though.

For pve you can look into parsely leaderboards. http://parsely.io/parser/leaderboard According to them, best dps classes are:

Anni, carnage marauder

Engineering, virulence sniper.

Then after huge gap there are some other specs, such as arsenal merc, lightning sorc etc.

If you are looking for pure single target then carnage marauder is your choice. A little boring spec imo, only 5 buttons in the rotation.

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Thanks alot for the answer!

Didnt know there was such thing :)

 

But its slightly confusing, idk what TTK stands for, and i don't see how those are on the top that you mentioned,

 

Ed'mùnd - 588.837 - May 26 2016, 11:28 - Guardian - Vigilance - The Harbinger

Dathan - 539.945 - May 30 2016, 15:41 - Guardian - Vigilance - The Harbinger

Pires - 495.871 - Jun 15 2016, 03:05 - Sorcerer Lightning - The Ebon Hawk

Naella - 451.470 - May 13 2016, 19:46 - Guardian - Vigilance - The Harbinger

Malencontre - 437.842 - May 03 2016, 00:31 - Guardian - Vigilance - The Ebon Hawk

 

Hows Sorc Lightning a gap below everyone if these are the top 5 judging from the site :o

 

Also

Are all Healer companions equal among eachother?

I heard that all are the same now after 4.0 and none have unique abilities any longer, and that theyre all based on their influence level.

 

Is this correct?

Would it be worth purchasing Treek , if any Companion would give the same result? :o

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a new player asking what is the best dps, is like a 16 year old who just got his license asking what is the fastest car. on multiple levels, it doesn't even make sense. there is no class in the game that is going to perform best in every situation; if there were, why would anybody play anything else? your question doesn't even have a single answer like you are looking for, because there are so many caveats and special considerations. for example, the correct answer to your specific question would start with annihilation marauder, as the top single target damage dealer. but it leaves out the fact that anni mara is the worst class in the game to run around doing solo stuff. it's a dot spec with the longest ramp up time in the game. in addition, as a melee class, there are times when he has to move and can't dps. any boss fight with a decent amount of adds, the anni mara is going to fall behind, because his aoe (even with dot spread) is not very impressive. anni mara is very much like a race car. if you take him onto the track he is going to be impressive as hell, but try to drive him home on normal roads and see how much fun that is. now how often do you go to the track (nim ops)? at the opposite extreme is mm sniper. some of the best burst in the game, and a super simple rotation makes him one of the most fun specs to play, but there are multiple nim boss fights, where he just can't do enough sustained damage and is not really viable. the term "best" depends very greatly on what you are trying to do. what do you do with your game time? are you a heroic or tactical flash point type of guy? do you like to pvp a little bit sometimes? see, you don't even want the best. you want a burst spec, and didn't even know it.

 

and that is the crucial point. every class and spec in the game is viable for everything up to and including hm ops. every class in the game has at least one spec capable of doing nim ops, and every player i know that kills nim bosses, knows how to run multiple specs on their main. and that leads to the main point i want to make with all of this: play what you want to play. play what seems fun to you, and stop looking for the i win button. if you git gud enough to start doing runs where spec matters, you will know it, and know what to do about it.

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a new player asking what is the best dps, is like a 16 year old who just got his license asking what is the fastest car. on multiple levels, it doesn't even make sense. there is no class in the game that is going to perform best in every situation; if there were, why would anybody play anything else? your question doesn't even have a single answer like you are looking for, because there are so many caveats and special considerations. for example, the correct answer to your specific question would start with annihilation marauder, as the top single target damage dealer. but it leaves out the fact that anni mara is the worst class in the game to run around doing solo stuff. it's a dot spec with the longest ramp up time in the game. in addition, as a melee class, there are times when he has to move and can't dps. any boss fight with a decent amount of adds, the anni mara is going to fall behind, because his aoe (even with dot spread) is not very impressive. anni mara is very much like a race car. if you take him onto the track he is going to be impressive as hell, but try to drive him home on normal roads and see how much fun that is. now how often do you go to the track (nim ops)? the term "best" depends very greatly on what you are trying to do. what do you do with your game time? are you a heroic or tactical flash point type of guy? do you like to pvp a little bit sometimes? see, you don't even want the best. you want a burst spec, and didn't even know it.

 

and that is the crucial point. every class and spec in the game is viable for everything up to and including hm ops. every class in the game has at least one spec capable of doing nim ops, and every player i know that kills nim bosses, knows how to run multiple specs on their main and, usually multiple alts. and that leads to the main point i want to make with all of this: play what you want to play. play what seems fun to you. if you git gud enough to start doing runs where spec matters, you will know it, and know what to do about it.

 

I agree completely with everything you've said. But in the OP's defense they could be an MMO veteran so they understand a lot about MMO mechanics, but they are new to this game in particular.

 

OP,

 

Along the same lines as sumquy but from the opposite end, Marksman Sniper/Sharpshooter Gunslinger has been calculated as the worst overall DPS and yet there are fights in end game where snipers and slingers spec into those disciplines because they are better suited for the fight.

 

That being said, based on http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=847112, the top 5 DPS classes/specs are:

 

Marauder - Annihilation || Sentinel - Watchman 7107DPS

Marauder - Carnage || Sentinel - Combat 6856DPS

Mercenary - Innovative Ordinance || Commando - Assault Specialist 6792DPS

Sniper - Engineering || Gunslinger - Saboteur 6774DPS

Sorcerer - Madness || Sage - Balance 6736DPS

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I agree completely with everything you've said. But in the OP's defense they could be an MMO veteran so they understand a lot about MMO mechanics, but they are new to this game in particular.

 

OP,

 

Along the same lines as sumquy but from the opposite end, Marksman Sniper/Sharpshooter Gunslinger has been calculated as the worst overall DPS and yet there are fights in end game where snipers and slingers spec into those disciplines because they are better suited for the fight.

 

That being said, based on http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=847112, the top 5 DPS classes/specs are:

 

Marauder - Annihilation || Sentinel - Watchman 7107DPS

Marauder - Carnage || Sentinel - Combat 6856DPS

Mercenary - Innovative Ordinance || Commando - Assault Specialist 6792DPS

Sniper - Engineering || Gunslinger - Saboteur 6774DPS

Sorcerer - Madness || Sage - Balance 6736DPS

 

i was in the edit part of posting to add a bit about mm sniper when you posted, lol. nim calphayus is a perfect example of that. a mm sniper is very effective against one specific part of that fight, even though it struggles in other areas.

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a new player asking what is the best dps, is like a 16 year old who just got his license asking what is the fastest car. on multiple levels, it doesn't even make sense. there is no class in the game that is going to perform best in every situation; if there were, why would anybody play anything else? your question doesn't even have a single answer like you are looking for, because there are so many caveats and special considerations. for example, the correct answer to your specific question would start with annihilation marauder, as the top single target damage dealer. but it leaves out the fact that anni mara is the worst class in the game to run around doing solo stuff. it's a dot spec with the longest ramp up time in the game. in addition, as a melee class, there are times when he has to move and can't dps. any boss fight with a decent amount of adds, the anni mara is going to fall behind, because his aoe (even with dot spread) is not very impressive. anni mara is very much like a race car. if you take him onto the track he is going to be impressive as hell, but try to drive him home on normal roads and see how much fun that is. now how often do you go to the track (nim ops)? at the opposite extreme is mm sniper. some of the best burst in the game, and a super simple rotation makes him one of the most fun specs to play, but there are multiple nim boss fights, where he just can't do enough sustained damage and is not really viable. the term "best" depends very greatly on what you are trying to do. what do you do with your game time? are you a heroic or tactical flash point type of guy? do you like to pvp a little bit sometimes? see, you don't even want the best. you want a burst spec, and didn't even know it.

 

and that is the crucial point. every class and spec in the game is viable for everything up to and including hm ops. every class in the game has at least one spec capable of doing nim ops, and every player i know that kills nim bosses, knows how to run multiple specs on their main. and that leads to the main point i want to make with all of this: play what you want to play. play what seems fun to you, and stop looking for the i win button. if you git gud enough to start doing runs where spec matters, you will know it, and know what to do about it.

 

I adore your little story, but unfortunately its not connected to me.

I'm not creating a new character, i was simply curious about the top fives,

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Thanks alot for the answer!

Didnt know there was such thing :)

 

But its slightly confusing, idk what TTK stands for, and i don't see how those are on the top that you mentioned,

 

Ed'mùnd - 588.837 - May 26 2016, 11:28 - Guardian - Vigilance - The Harbinger

Dathan - 539.945 - May 30 2016, 15:41 - Guardian - Vigilance - The Harbinger

Pires - 495.871 - Jun 15 2016, 03:05 - Sorcerer Lightning - The Ebon Hawk

Naella - 451.470 - May 13 2016, 19:46 - Guardian - Vigilance - The Harbinger

Malencontre - 437.842 - May 03 2016, 00:31 - Guardian - Vigilance - The Ebon Hawk

 

Hows Sorc Lightning a gap below everyone if these are the top 5 judging from the site :o

 

Also

Are all Healer companions equal among eachother?

I heard that all are the same now after 4.0 and none have unique abilities any longer, and that theyre all based on their influence level.

 

Is this correct?

Would it be worth purchasing Treek , if any Companion would give the same result? :o

 

Idk how you went with juggs at top place, when I press parse leaderboard I see only anni marauders.

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All the classes provide good dps in the hands of a good player. People say operative dps sucks, but we had a few good operative players join us and their dps was great. Vanguard dps is preffered cause its very simply to master and easy to play. Sentinel and Slinger dps has always been great yet it might be a bit harder to play, but its all about the player.

 

Hell, just yesterday i watched a SaV NiM styrak stream with a Sage TK dps, which is probably the worst spec to play as dps now and it was fine. It all depends on the player, some classes are easier to play, but overall the dps output is comparable IN RAIDS (not talking about dummy parse)

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I adore your little story, but unfortunately its not connected to me.

I'm not creating a new character, i was simply curious about the top fives,

 

but you still don't understand why it is a problem question, (especially on a new player help board), with no correct answer? let me try again then. there is no "top" dps. no single best and no top 5. which class and spec is going to be "best" is entirely dependent on the encounter you are talking about. mm sniper is going to be best at killing anything up to a gold star, while sorc is going to be the best when their are multiple targets, and, of course, powertech is going to be the best when there is a lot of movement.

 

the problem with your question is that it leads directly to a bunch of newish players running around on anni maras, thinking they have "the best", and not understanding why they can't get it to perform, and why it is no fun doing their dailies and heroics.

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And that's exactly why i filtered out the question by asking only on single targets, and also sacrificing survivability, crowd controlling, mobility over it.

 

I know they're all different, and each and everyone are better in their own fields.

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